Comments on: WSJ and O’Reilly: Deportation Deniers

By: Tanstaafl

Tanstaafl — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:16:00 +0000

Sorry, my own arithmetic has problems.

$250B divided by 12M (the open border number) aliens is about $20K per.

$250B divided by 20M (the realistic number) is more like $12K per.

The point is the same. Put a bounty of $1K on each illegal and let the market demonstrate Menendez' lie.

By: Tanstaafl

Tanstaafl — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:13:00 +0000

Of course handing out Z visas would be easier than deporting them all. It's the whole bill that isn't any cheaper or easier.

The open borders people don't have any intention of doing anything other than handing out 20 million Z visas. Which is why the consider it cheaper and easier than deportation.

Then there's Menendez who says deportation would cost $250B. That's $20K per illegal alien. Yeah, that's realistic. If we sent a SWAT team for them one at a time. Does anybody in the media know how to do arithmetic?

NYC is the biggest shithole, not the worst per capita. I could be wrong. It might be LA or Miami (haven't been there, can't say).

By: flippityflopitty

flippityflopitty — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:39:00 +0000

Deporting 12 million vs. Z Visa Administration. Its not the 1850’s – we really cant just round ’em up, put them on an island, pack them into cattle cars and ship them back home. The Zisa Admin on the other hand is far easier – getting 12 million people to stand on line for 4-6 hours? Go to minority voting districts on election day, go to your local INS office any day, go to DMV in New York State, or go shopping on the day after Thanksgiving. Not something you catch me doing voluntarily, but if its a path to zitizenship…

Doesn’t change the fact its a stupid idea – so all the “law-abiding” zitizen-wanna-bees will get on line and the criminals the legislation is trying to keep out will lurk in the shadows. Kinda like going into Iraq to secure WMDs only to find out they’ve been shipped out in the lead-up to the war.

California economy implosion? For every working alien how many go to our k-12 schools? Run up that tab and let me know what you get. (notwithstanding the cost for special ed, meds, lunch and ESL)

I take offense – New York City is not the biggest shithole in the country:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0921299.html
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004902.html

OK its not the cleanest city:
http://www.rd.com/content/50-cleanest-dirtiest-cities-in-america/
(But Rochester broke the top 10?)

If you want the data Mr. Econgringo go to the PEW Research for reference to the unauthorized migrants:

http://pewhispanic.org/factsheets/factsheet.php?FactsheetID=33

Doormen are actually well-paid in NYC and are generally not associated with unauthorized migrant workers.