Comments on: Politician, Politician, Pants on Fire /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/ Politics + Technology = Nonsense at the Speed of Light Tue, 01 Sep 2026 03:05:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Anonymous /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-1763 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:20:00 +0000 /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-1763 This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

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By: Tanstaafl /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-1039 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:48:00 +0000 /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-1039 From the BBC, concerning British tourists stuck in the Superdome:

“He witnessed a good deal of violence, with scuffles going on and people breaking things.

“The group really feared for their safety because they were being targeted because they were the only white people there.

“The National Guard moved them out into the basketball stadium next door where the very sick were being held.

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He said of his eventual Superdome refuge: “There was a lot of heat from the people in there, people shouting racial abuse about us being white.

More details from American Renaissance:

A group of about 30 British students were among the very small number of whites in the stadium, where they spent four harrowing days. Jamie Trout, 22, an economics major, wrote that the scene “was like something out of Lord of the Flies,” with “people shouting racial abuse about us being white.” One night, word came that the power was failing, and that there was only ten minutes’ worth of gas for the generators. Zoe Smith, 21, from Hull, said they all feared for their lives: “All us girls sat in the middle while the boys sat on the outside, with chairs as protection,” she said. “We were absolutely terrified, the situation had descended into chaos, people were very hostile and the living conditions were horrendous.” She said that even during the day, “when we offered to help with the cleaning, the locals gave us abuse.”

Mr. Trout said the National Guard finally recognized how dangerous the threat was from blacks, and moved the British under guard to the basketball area, which was safer. “The army warned us to keep our bags close to us and to grip them tight,” he said, as they were escorted out. Twenty-year-old Jane Wheeldon credited one man in particular, Sgt. Garland Ogden, with getting the Britons safely out. “He went against a lot of rules to get us moved,” she said.

Australian tourists stuck in the Superdome had the same experience. Bud Hopes, a 32-year-old man from Kangaroo Point, Brisbane, took control and may have saved many lives. As the stadium reverted to anarchy he realized whites were in danger, and gathered tourists together for safety. “There were 65 of us altogether so we were able to look after each other, especially the girls who were being grabbed and threatened,” said Mr. Hopes. They organized escorts for women who had to go to the toilet or for food, and set up a roster of men to stand guard while others slept. “We sat through the night just watching each other, not knowing if we would be alive in the morning,” Mr. Hopes said. “Ninety-eight percent of the people around the world are good,” he said; “in that place 98 per cent of the people were bad.”

John McNeil of Coorparoo in Brisbane tells what happened to their group, too, heard the lights were about to go out: “I looked at Bud [Hopes] and said, ‘That will be the end of us.’ The gangs had already eyed us off. If the lights had gone out we would have been in deep trouble. We were sitting there praying for a miracle and the lights stayed on.” Mr. Hopes said the Australians owed their lives to a National Guardsman who broke the rules and got whites out to a medical center past seething crowds of blacks.

Peter McNeil of Brisbane told the Australian AP that his son John was one of the 65 who managed to get out. The blacks were reportedly so hostile “they would stab you as soon as look at you.” “He’s never been so scared in his life,” explained Mr. McNeil. “He just said they had to get out of the dark. Otherwise, another night, he said, they would have been gone.” No American newspaper wrote about what these white tourists had gone through.

Emphasis mine.

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By: Φ /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-785 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:57:00 +0000 /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-785 a black majority would harass and terrorize a White minority at the Superdome while a White majority coexists quite peacefully with black and latino minorities at the Q . . .

I hadn’t heard about racist harassment of whites at SD. I googled it and came up empty. Do you have a source?

Thanks,

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By: Tanstaafl /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-560 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:47:00 +0000 /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-560 The differing natures of the NOLA and SD effects (widespread versus spotty) was certainly a contributing factor, but mostly what it did was cause there to be even more affluent White, ie civilized, folk at the Q than there would have been if the evacuations had been widespread and thus more demographically representative, ie more invaders.

Because it was mostly civilized people the situation stayed civilized. My Watson-like politically incorrect point is: behavior and race are correlated. But then anyone aware of the unpleasant reality of crime statistics knows that.

As it turned out the invaders did show up for the freebies, but since most of them were able to take those goodies back to their non-evacuation zone home (several times!) there wasn’t much of a need or even an opportunity for the mix of races to “get real” ala the Superdome.

How could I forget those Jersey vapors? After all, if I should die of “natural causes” some day, they’ll be what killed me.

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By: flippityflopitty /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-559 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:47:00 +0000 /2007/10/24/politician-politician-pants-on-fire/#comment-559 Q was no superdome. As described by the press and your own experience it was an orderly evac to Q versus a slog through swamplands to the island super D; No humidity with plenty of water on hand versus 100% humidity and supplies “in transit”; open air stadium versus super-sweat dome; interactive govt and media experience versus helicopters and Geraldo-vision from a distance (lets not forget the National Guard secured themselves in one section of super D).

Yes, the Q pop was certainly more agreeable (“we’re all in this together” – Brazil) like a New York blackout – but, the expectation was to sit in a safe zone until the all clear announcement – Super D was the hopeless finding themselves in a hopeless situation.

Holocaust – appropriate.
hol·o·caust (hl-kôst, hl-) KEY

NOUN: Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire.

Spitzer aka idiot. Glad my state taxes are going to the new 3-license program – whoopee! Wonder if Im eligible just to hold the scarlet letter – oh jeez thats a blog unto itself.

NYC in the ’70’s? Dont forget those New Jersey refineries pouring it over the SI landscape – remember that slaughter house odor off the Goethal’s Bridge. Hmmmm …. brings back the memories.

You nailed the hypocrisy home run with evac & deport. Look at the what happened to the II thieves – four were let go. Some system were paying for…

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