Red herring alert.

Dee said:
“What is obvious is it takes one generation to assimilate. It has been barely a generation since Reagan´s so called Amnesty. Many of the new arrivals arrived since the 90´s, so we still have a time to go.”

How was Reagan’s amnesty, “so-called.”? Did you desire even more free money and benefits?

Assimilation of one nation into another another annihilates both. Who wants that, other than iberals and people who hate the target nations? And why must Americans be forced to assimilate the foreigners as you demand? Doesn’t seem very fair to me. Your position sounds quite communist and totalitarian, actually.

“We Hispanics are much like you Europeans. We are all Caucasian.”

There is much dispute about those terms; yours is a too broad and therefore weak statement.

Dee said:
“Tan, how many Hispanic women have you dated or been in love with or admired from afar? (me included)”

“Intelligence? I would venture to say my IQ is higher than many of your commenters. All the talk of inferior race is ludicrous.”

Typical liberal argument: I am better than some of you in some things, therefore the average of my group is the same or better as the average of your group.

And thank you for displaying your superior intelligence, we understand you perfectly. You may run along and play now.

Dee, why can’t you and your kind acknowledge that Europeans are a real people, with a real heritage and history? Why does our nationhood threaten you so much? Is it because you covet what we have built for ourselves and our posterity?

Why do you equate this with some negative, liberalese connotation. It is no different than :

“a person who accepts the consequences of biology and history.”

I was born green, being green is relevant to me, you are not green so you are not relevant to me.

So in essence you are prepared to base the entire relevance and future of (your) civilization on pure chance. You were born green.

Dee – “We Hispanics are much like you Europeans. We are all Caucasian.”

One similarity Ive noted is I know a number of Mexican-Americans who frown on those with less (or no) European DNA. Its like their different races.

By your own testimony, Jews have had a big influence on Western civilization. Surely blacks have made some contributions as well, and the Hispanic influence is growing.

Jews and blacks can both get lost and white civilization will still go on humming. If whites disappear, blacks and mestizos aren’t going to be able to maintain a successful civilization. Jews are players to the extent that they are highly westernized. On the other hand, the clannish and all-too-Mideastern Syrian Jews of Brooklyn that Sailer recently mentioned aren’t conducive to maintaining a vibrant and open western culture. And for all the good Ashkenazic Jews have done the West scientifically, I think their cultural influence might actually be negative on the whole. (I admit I’m not settled on this point, however.)

I’m still not at all certain whether I feel more like a citizenist or a separatist, but the citizenist option is looking less attractive and less viable as time passes and minority populations grow.