Comments on: Pew Something Stinks /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/ Politics + Technology = Nonsense at the Speed of Light Tue, 01 Sep 2026 03:05:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: ben tillman /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1358 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:00:00 +0000 /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1358 …all historical influence aside these religious institutions are acting on their own today.

If you’re telling me not to give money to the ELCA because it’s importing “refugees”, I agree completely. But I will not confuse those who have caught a disease with those who cause it.

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By: flippityflopitty /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1282 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:46:00 +0000 /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1282 JJ – your interpretation of the census is spot on – it is sent out to households with voluntary reply. Any “fear” the illegals hold in reporting to the govt is waived because of two things a) the reporting (short form option)doesnt ask your residency status; b) the census workers and advertising push heavily to get raw (short form) data and Ive seen literature (in multiple languages) notifying recipients they have nothing to fear with providing true and accurate data.

http://www.census.gov/dmd/www/advcampaign.html

Furthermore, there is a political push to get this info on the basis of congressional districting and local politics – a lot of local “grass roots” initiatives are pushed in areas where minority populations (typically undercounted)have grown since the previous census. Every breathing body counts.

The “shit in, shit out” remark really refers to all the population data thats available on the web. Weeding through it you will note there is problems with the race classification – there is the “are you latino” question followed by the race question with the choice as white, black or numerous other (but not latino)categories. Later in the questionnaire relate to ethnicity and include hispanic or latino or other language variations. The “fear” factor (and other factors) did produce an estimated 5% undercount of latinos (only slightly higher than blacks and significantly lower than American Indians 12% – whites are typically
There is also a summary page of the differences between the 1990 and 2000 census if you are curious:

http://www.census.gov/dmd/www/2000quest.html

Check out the historical summary as well for giggles (1800 on up).

Some other interesting census related:

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/08/17/news/state/11_08_058_16_07.txt

http://www.senate.leg.state.mn.us/departments/scr/redist/red2000/ch1censu.htm

http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/2010_Census_and_GOP_070914.html

Its all pretty dry stuff to pool through but when you consider the impact to voting districts (local, state and federal) its not something to ignore.

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By: flippityflopitty /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1281 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:49:00 +0000 /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1281 BT – we can argue the history of immigration politics and the Jewish influence but the PB 2008 point is just that – all historical influence aside these religious institutions are acting on their own today and pushing heavily in favor of indoctrinating foreigners (particularly impoverished ones) into our country. Thered is only so much the US economy can bear before we all share in this tax-based charity. I for one would prefer the govt to send the money overseas but keep the border conrtrolled.

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By: ben tillman /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1280 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:02:00 +0000 /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1280 BT – Clearly Jewish activism has influenced immigration policy in the country, but the Catholics et al have made their own conscious, moral decision to open the flood gates as well.

But that decision is due to the ideas and incentives and disincentives put in place by Jewish activism. There is neither empirical nor theoretical support for your supposition of fully independent agency by Christian churches.

The PB of the Episcopal Church made her point crystal clear:

In anno domini 2008!!!!! Kallen’s “Democracy versus the melting pot” was published in 1915.

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By: jim jones /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1276 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:59:00 +0000 /2008/03/11/pew-something-stinks/#comment-1276 “Illegals were counted in the last census (one of the problems Ive cited in previous posts related to the congressional districting debacle).”

Interesting post, flippity. I am admittedly ignorant of how the census is conducted, although I had the vague impression that it was done by households self-reporting, and then the feds extrapolating from that. As such, I thought it likely that illegals would be undercounted because of their presumably greater reluctance to make contact with the government. If you know how the processs works, I’d enjoy hearing more.

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