Comments on: UK Thought Criminals Sheppard and Whittle Jailed in LA /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/ Politics + Technology = Nonsense at the Speed of Light Tue, 01 Sep 2026 03:05:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Anonymous /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-2013 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:54:00 +0000 /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-2013 Heretical 2 update.

NO REMEDY FOR JAILED BRITISH “HERETICS”

Bruce Leichty
Law Offices of Bruce Leichty

Los Angeles, California-(10/16/2008)-Two jailed writers who were convicted in Britain of Internet hate speech on a U.S.-based website will be forced to remain in special asylum proceedings with no right to a bail hearing, a Los Angeles Immigration Court judge ruled October 14, 2008.

“That is a very bad blow to their hopes of freedom in the near future, and indeed to all asylum seekers and defenders of free speech in the United States,” said Paul Ballard from the United Kingdom, coordinator of a legal defense fund for the pair known as the “Heretical Two” (based on the website http://www.heretical.com ).
The pair, Simon Sheppard and Stephen Whittle, have since July 14 been in the custody of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in a Santa Ana, California contract detention facility, after disembarking that same date from a plane at Los Angeles International Airport, where they immediately asked for political asylum. They fled Britain after being convicted July 11 in a Leeds courtroom of inciting racial hatred for publishing writings such as “Don’t Be Sheeple” and “The Holohoax,” including some published on Sheppard’s website operated from a server in Torrance, California.
Ballard noted that British law since 1986 allows for criminal conviction for speech if the subject speech is “likely to result” in the “stirring up” of racial hatred. A conviction requires no proof of violence or intent. During the trial competing expert witnesses were called to testify as to whether Jews, an offended group, were a “religious” or “racial” group, since British law does not criminalize stirring up religious hatred.

The Heretical Two, who consider themselves political satirists and nonviolent gadflies, are the first persons to be prosecuted in Britain for Internet speech made on a Web server in another country, says Ballard. They were charged under Britain’s Public Order Act of 1986 and are subjected to penalties enhanced by the British Prevention of Terrorism Act of 2000.

Since that time, Britain has arrested another man, Frederick Toben, an Australian, for speech denying “the Holocaust,” based on a German arrest warrant issued for Toben. Toben was taken into custody October during a layover at Heathrow Airport.

“These two alarming cases are related in that both of them are attempts by the British Crown to criminalize speech regardless of where it takes place and whether it is legal in the place where it was made,” noted Bruce Leichty, a San Diego County attorney who was retained in September to represent the Heretical Two.

The October 14 Los Angeles Immigration Court decision in the Sheppard and Whittle cases leaves the two in need of the remedy of habeas corpus (literally: we have the body), a process which federal legislators in the U.S. have made more difficult and costly for immigrants in recent years, according to Leichty.

Leichty said the actions of the U.S. government to date have added insult to injury. “Here are two British individuals who
published speech that was legally protected in the United States, for which they were criminally prosecuted in Britain,” said Leichty, “and now the case has taken an even more Kafkaesque turn since the one country that should be protecting them from imprisonment in Britain has instead thrown them into U.S. jail for an indefinite period of time, based only on the fact that they requested political asylum.

“Refugees are protected by international treaty; no country should treat political refugees like these two have been treated, particularly where they enter the host country legally.”

Leichty notes that Homeland Security admitted in its Immigration Court brief that the two were admitted to the United
States under the U.S. Visa Waiver Program, and that until they made their request for political asylum at Los Angeles Airport DHS had no reason to suspect or detain them. Once the two told their story to airport officers, however,
DHS attempted to revoke its decision admitting them to the U.S. and to declare the two “inadmissible” on the ground that they entered with the intent to stay in the U.S. as immigrants, which Leichty says is both preposterous on the facts of the case and in any event not within the powers of airport officers.

“It is well established that an asylum claimant does not give up his nonimmigrant status simply by telling his host country that he needs the protection of political asylum.”

The special type of proceeding that the two were put into, called an “asylum-only proceeding” where immigration judges do not have the authority to release the alien from detention, is used in connection with the Visa Waiver program only for asylum applicants who are not already admitted into the country, or those who have overstayed their authorized periods of stay-neither of which applied to Sheppard and Whittle when they sought asylum. But Leichty says that Immigration Judge Rose Peters turned a deaf ear to these points and ruled that DHS officers had “discretion” to issue the notices that put the two into the special proceedings.

Leichty said that, although the recent and more notorious arrest of Frederick Toben in London involves a German extradition request, he is not aware of any request by the U.K. for the extradition of Sheppard and Whittle, and in any case the United States typically does not extradite persons who are convicted of crimes which are not crimes in the U.S.

“It is clear that obsessive security apparatuses in two different countries have now run amok, by respectively making
criminals out of dissidents and by locking them up even though they are not criminals. One does not have to share the views or style of the Heretical Two to appreciate the threat posed by this type of case to individual rights and liberties.”

“The laws under which Sheppard and Whittle were prosecuted could just as easily be used to subject nonconformist American publishers to criminal penalties in Britain.”

More here:
http://uk.novopress.info/novo-print.php?p=1533

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By: Tanstaafl /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-1833 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:36:00 +0000 /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-1833 Good information Flanders, thanks.

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By: Flanders Fields /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-1831 Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:19:00 +0000 /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-1831 Letter from Simon Sheppard

http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/2008/08/letter-from-simon-sheppard.html

Appeal For The Heretical Two

http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/

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By: icr /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-1805 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:45:00 +0000 /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-1805 Even grave robbing is a noble act when in pursuit of the un-PC. Distasteful, no doubt, but nothing stops our brave NWO security forces when there’s white racism afoot- er, or even in the grave.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7534905.stm

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By: Tanstaafl /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-1793 Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:58:00 +0000 /2008/07/28/uk-thought-criminals-sheppard-and-whittle-jailed-in-la/#comment-1793 I’ve updated the original post with some additional information. It’s ambiguous whether the material mentioned in thejc.com are things for which Sheppard and Whittle were convicted, but it’s very possible they are. If anyone can provide more accurate information please do so below.

A clearer picture of Stephen Wittle.

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