Comments on: Fruitloopable Presumption /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/ Politics + Technology = Nonsense at the Speed of Light Tue, 01 Sep 2026 03:05:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Tanstaafl /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2885 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:49:28 +0000 /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2885 The alienated, condescending tone has its roots in jewishness rather than paleo-ness.

Auster shares this trait with other full-time iconoclastic jewish critics, like Dmitry Orlov and James Kunstler. They came up in the comments to Faux-White.

Just as I initially misunderstood Auster’s critique of “liberalism”, I think Prozium misunderstood Kunstler’s critique of suburbia. Kunstler just doesn’t like White people. He can hardly disguise his disgust for how we live, especially our log-cabin-in-the-woods instinct. As you say, it’s as if he’s thinking, “look at these stupid people, these OTHER people”.

Once you see through one of these poseurs it’s much easier to see through others.

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By: Mansizedtarget.com /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2882 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:50:31 +0000 /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2882 I realized something important in this article I had never previously realized. Auster’s defense of the West suffers from the same alienation, condescension, and lack of fellow feeling that he accuses other paleoconservatives of. I share his criticism of a certain nihilist kind of paleocon; but Auster has the same disease. There is a bit too much, “look at these stupid people, these OTHER people” in his tone. It’s not the tone of a man upset and worried and angry that a small clique is ruining his country and all too many of the rest are following them to their doom. It’s the tone of a man who is the center of his own moral universe, the one person who can see clearly in a world of stupid, self-destructive, unwise, and nasty . . . goyim.

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By: weston /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2427 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:20:00 +0000 /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2427 re: Auster’s Islam speech

I’ve been saying for years that the Islam issue is a red herring and that Auster’s overriding obsession with it is telling.

If Auster and co. achieved victory tomorrow and his desired reforms were enacted, would we be any better off? I’d argue that we wouldn’t. So Muslim immigration into the United States (which is fairly small in number already) would be curtailed, but the rest of our immigration policy would be unchanged. We would still have 2 million or so non-whites flooding into the country each year, it’s just that these non-whites would be Christians or atheists or Hindus. That’s some great reward. What’s the point in working towards a goal whose achievement gets you nothing?

The critics of Islam tend to be either white liberals or Jews. The liberals are concerned that Muslims aren’t sufficiently liberal enough to fit within our multicultural, race-blind societies. The Jews’ concern is essentially the same, though obviously more focused on anti-semitism. These Jewish critics of Islam obviously want mass non-white immigration to continue, they just want to vet these immigrants to make sure they’re more Jew-friendly than Muslims tend to be.

Focusing on anything other than race is a waste of time and energy.

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By: Tanstaafl /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2425 Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:36:00 +0000 /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2425 In Homeland Security Department goes Adorno the Big Banana notes the DHS report “in which traditional Americans, white men in particular, are portrayed as repressive, cold-hearted, inhuman Nazis”.

He doesn’t mention that the report is informed by anti-anti-semites as repressive as himself, and fails to link to his own ongoing discussion in What should be the paleocons’ stand toward Israel? in which he portrays White men like Buchanan, Taki, Fleming, and Sobran as cold-hearted, inhuman Nazis.

The view from the right (ie. Austard and sycophants) is summed up very well by something F. Loop copies and pastes from William A.:

I’m afraid that the bottom line is that many if not most of the paleoconservatives in the USA are anti-Semites (i.e. Jew-haters). That’s really all there is to it. When you show them that their position vis a vis the State of Israel is inconsistent with their paleoconservative nationalism, or that they conflate the worldwide Jewish diaspora with the State of Israel, or that they hold the State of Israel to an imaginary standard of purity, you’re just going to get the same booshwa back. Because the bottom line is, they are allergic to Jews, period, and their views on the State of Israel are NOT inconsistent with their underlying anti-Semitism. And as is so often the case, their anti-Semitism trumps everything else in their ideology.

Several jew-obsessed commenters chime in to second this idea that it is jew-obsession that motivates “the anti-semites”, AKA “the paleocons”. That’s really all there is to it. Period.

Here “the paleocons” is used as a pejorative. It seems to mean any pro- or crypto-White who opposes the zionist hypocrites who direct our people and resources to benefit israel. In Fruit of the Loom’s mind this equates to attacking, delegitimizing, and demonizing israel. “The paleocons” also includes any White who thinks diaspora jewish support for israel has something to do with israel. This, His Loopiness lectures in grave tones, is the terrible sin of “conflating American jews with israel”.

The cherry on top (or at the end) of this morality-hinges-on-support-for-israel thread comes when the Candied Cherry is faced directly with a “rebuttable presumption” (from Paul S.) concerning whether his loyalties lie more with israel than America. Loopty-Doopty not only refuses to rebut it – he considers it an insult. He copies and pastes Adela G. to call it anti-semitism.

Got that? If you question whether someone who poses as pro-“white” and is absolutely obsessed with israel, jews, and anti-semitism actually shares your interests – then you’re a jew hater.

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By: Anonymous /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2421 Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:13:00 +0000 /2009/04/05/fruitloopable-presumption/#comment-2421 Auster has a whole bunch of new stuff up on the Jewish issue. He’s now trying to argue that racially conscious whites shouldn’t hold it against Israel that American Jews hate us and are trying to destroy our nation.

Does anyone know how to contact Auster? The email he has on his site doesn’t work.

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