Comments on: Breivik Trial Begins /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/ Politics + Technology = Nonsense at the Speed of Light Tue, 01 Sep 2026 03:05:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Anonymous /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7904 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:40:21 +0000 /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7904 If Norway builds monuments to Breivik, then may Bergen burn to the ground.

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By: Trond /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7879 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 05:13:00 +0000 /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7879 Scott said… “Fjordman not only looks like a jew, he writes like one too.”

Fjordman is very likely Jewish; his father certainly looks to be.

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By: Trond /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7878 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 05:00:55 +0000 /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7878 Anonymous said… “Were any Jews killed on Utoyo? There should have been lots of Jews killed since Utoyo was the usual (or so we’ve been told) meeting and training site for the future leaders of the liberal party.”

There are only 1500 Jews in Norway totally, so subtracting out those over 25 and say under 15, that doesn’t leave very many within the age rage to be members of the AUF. There were probably very few Jews on Utøya.

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By: Trond /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7877 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 04:51:08 +0000 /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7877 The AUF (Labour Youth League), as an organisation, is not an entirely innocent one, btw. (Of course the under-18 individuals on Utøya certainly were.)

In the 1990s, the AUF was caught inflating its membership numbers in order to receive extra subsidies from the government. This seems to be a common fraud scheme perpetrated by the left as the Norwegian “anti-fascist” organisation, SOS-Racism, was caught perpetrating the same scheme just last year.

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By: Trond /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7876 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 04:38:58 +0000 /2012/04/17/breivik-trial-begins/#comment-7876 Anonymous said… Look, he killed a bunch of people at an anti-Zionist rally.

Utøya was not an anti-Zionist rally. Utøya is (was) an annual political summer camp held by the AUF or Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking, which literally translates to the Workers’ Youth League, but is probably better translated as the Labour Youth League since, although it is an independent organisation, it really is the junior branch of Norway’s ruling Labour Party.

While I agree that it was clearly wrong to target people under the age of 18, and I don’t condone political violence in general, as someone in the thread here said, it really was the move of an “evil genius” to target Utøya. Utøya is where all the leaders of the Labour Party “grow up,” so in killing those attending Utøya, Breivik was, in fact, getting rid of many of the future leaders of the Labour Party. Additionally, many of those at Utøya were probably the children of current Labour Party politicians (the nephew of the current Minister of Trade was one of the individuals who escaped on the ferry), so there was also clearly some direct revenge here: you take away our children’s future, I (Breivik) will take away yours.

Finally, Utøya was a hugely symbolic place for the Labour Party. They’ve met there in their summer camp every year since the 1930s and most adult Labour Party politicians have fond memories of the place. The names of the places on the island reflect their ideology: Bolshevik cove, for instance. That has been taken away from them; they cannot go back there. If they do, it will never, ever feel the same again. Breivik took away the Labour Party’s symbolic heart.

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