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Tim Wise Hates Whites

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Tim Wise writes An Open Letter to the White Right, On the Occasion of Your Recent, Successful Temper Tantrum, dated 3 November 2010, reproduced here in its entirety:

For all y’all rich folks, enjoy that champagne, or whatever fancy ass Scotch you drink.

And for y’all a bit lower on the economic scale, enjoy your Pabst Blue Ribbon, or whatever shitty ass beer you favor.

Whatever the case, and whatever your economic station, know this…

You need to drink up.

And quickly.

And heavily.

Because your time is limited.

Real damned limited.

So party while you can, but mind the increasingly loud clock ticking away in the corners of your consciousness.

The clock that reminds you how little time you and yours have left.

Not much more now.

Tick, tock.

Tick, tock.

Tick.

Tock.

I know, you think you’ve taken “your country back” with this election — and of course you have always thought it was yours for the taking, cuz that’s what we white folks are bred to believe, that it’s ours, and how dare anyone else say otherwise — but you are wrong.

You have won a small battle in a larger war the meaning of which you do not remotely understand.

‘Cuz there is nothing even slightly original about you.

There have always been those who wanted to take the country back.

There were those who, in past years, wanted to take the country back to a time of enslavement and indentured servitude.

But they lost.

There were those who wanted to take us back to a time when children could be made to work in mines and factories, when workers had no legal rights to speak of, when the skies in every major city were heavy with industrial soot that would gather on sidewalks and windowsills like volcanic ash.

But they lost.

There were those who wanted to take us back to a time when women could not vote, or attend any but a few colleges, or get loans in their own names, or start their own businesses.

But they lost.

There were those who wanted to take us back to a time when blacks “had no rights that the white man was bound to respect,” – this being the official opinion of the Supreme Court before those awful days of judicial activism, now decried by the likes of you – and when people of color could legally be kept from voting solely because of race, or holding certain jobs, or living in certain neighborhoods, or run out of other towns altogether when the sun would go down, or be strung up from trees.

But they lost.

And you will lose.

So make a note of it.

Tweet it to yourself.

Put it on your Facebook wall and leave it there so you’ll remember that I told you so.

It is coming, and soon.

This isn’t hubris. It isn’t ideology. It is not wishful thinking.

It is math.

Not even advanced math. Just simple, basic, like 3rd grade math.

The kind of math that proves how your kind — mostly older white folks beholden to an absurd, inaccurate, nostalgic fantasy of what America used to be like — are dying.

You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time.

Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends.

Our ankles survive.

You do not.

Michael Meyers, Freddie Kreuger, Jason, and that asshole husband in that movie with Julia Roberts who tracks her down after she runs away and changes her identity–they are all done. Even that crazy fucker in Saw is about to be finished off for good. Granted, he’s gonna be popping out in some 3-D shit to scare the kiddies, so he isn’t going quietly. But he’s going, as all bad guys eventually do.

And in the pantheon of American history, old white people have pretty much always been the bad guys, the keepers of the hegemonic and reactionary flame, the folks unwilling to share the category of American with others on equal terms.

Fine, keep it up. It doesn’t matter.

Because you’re on the endangered list.

And unlike, say, the bald eagle or some exotic species of muskrat, you are not worth saving.

In forty years or so, maybe fewer, there won’t be any more white people around who actually remember that Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best, Opie-Taylor-Down-at-the-Fishing Hole cornpone bullshit that you hold so near and dear to your heart.

There won’t be any more white folks around who think the 1950s were the good old days, because there won’t be any more white folks around who actually remember them, and so therefore, we’ll be able to teach about them accurately and honestly, without hurting your precious feelings, or those of the so-called “greatest generation” — a bunch whose white members were by and large a gaggle of miscreants who helped save the world from fascism only to return home and oppose the ending of it here, by doing nothing to lift a finger on behalf of the civil rights struggle.

So to hell with you and all who revere you.

By then, half the country will be black or brown. And there is nothing you can do about it.

Nothing, Senõr Tancredo.

Nothing, Senõra Angle, or Senõra Brewer, or Senõr Beck.

Loy tiene muy mal, hijo de Puta.

And by then you will have gone all in as a white nationalist movement — hell you’ve all but done that now — thus guaranteeing that the folks of color, and even a decent size minority of us white folks will be able to crush you, election after election, from the Presidency on down to the 8th grade student council.

Like I said, this shit is math, baby. And numbers don’t lie.

Bottom line, this too shall pass.

So enjoy your tax cuts a while longer.

Go buy whatever you people buy when your taxes get cut: a new car or two, a bigger house, an island. Whatever.

Go back to trading your derivatives, engaging in rampant financial speculation that produces nothing of value, that turns the whole world into your personal casino. Whatever.

Play your hand, and for the love of God play it big. Real big. As in, shoot for the moon big. As in, try to privatize Social Security, and health care, and everything else. Whatever.

At least that way everyone will be able to see what you’re really about.

We’ve been trying to tell them, but nothing beats seeing it with your own eyes, so “Go big or go home,” Bubba.

“Git ‘er Done.”

“Cowboy up,” or whatever other stupid-ass catch phrase strikes your fancy.

Just promise you’ll do more than talk this time.

Please, or as one of your celluloid heroes might put it, “make my day.”

Do whatever you gotta do, but remember that those who are the victims of your greed and indifference take the long view.

They know, but you do not, that justice is not for the sprinters, but rather for the long distance runners who will be hitting their second wind, right about the time that you collapse from exhaustion.

They are like the tortoise to your hare.

They are like the San Francisco Giants, to your New York Yankees: a bunch that loses year after year after year, until they finally win.

You have had this confidence before, remember?

You thought you had secured your position permanently after the overthrow of reconstruction in the wake of the civil war, after the elimination of the New Deal, after the Reagan revolution, after the Republican electoral victory of 1994. And yet, they who refuse to die are still here.

Because those who have lived on the margins, who have been abused, maligned, targeted by austerity measures and budget cuts, subjected to racism, classism, sexism, straight supremacy and every other form of oppression always know more about their abusers than the abusers know about their victims.

They have to study you, to pay careful attention, to adjust their body armor accordingly, and to memorize your sleep patterns.

You, on the other hand, need know nothing whatsoever about them. And this, will surely prove fatal to you in the end. For it means you will not know their resolve. Will not fear it, as you should.

It means you will take their greatest strength — perseverance — and make of it a weakness, called losing.

But what you forget, or more to the point never knew, is that those who lose know how to lose, which is to say they know how to lose with dignity.

And those who suffer know how to suffer, which is to say they know how to survive: a skill that is in short supply amid the likes of you.

You, who could not survive the thought of minimal health care reform, or financial regulation, or a marginal tax rate equal to that which you paid just 10 years earlier, perhaps are under the illusion that everyone is as weak as you, as soft as you, as akin to petulant children as you are, as unable to cope with the smallest setback, the slightest challenge to the way you think your country should look and feel, and operate.

But, surprise…they are not.

And they know how to regroup, and plot, and plan, and they are planning even now — we are — your destruction.

And I do not mean by that your physical destruction. We don’t play those games. We’re not into the whole “Second Amendment remedies, militia, armed resistance” bullshit that your side fetishizes, cuz, see, we don’t have to be. We don’t need guns.

We just have to be patient.

And wait for your hearts to stop beating.

And stop they will.

And for some of you, real damned soon, truth be told.

Do you hear it?

The sound of your empire dying? Your nation, as you knew it, ending, permanently?

Because I do, and the sound of its demise is beautiful.

So know this.

If you thought this election was payback for 2008, remember…

Payback, thy name is…

Temporary.

It’s plain from this spittle-flecked rant that Wise doesn’t just hate old, rich, Tea Party, right-wing, or White nationalist White people. His snide little cultural references and celebration of our demographic demise make it clear that he hates Whites, period. He’s telling us, truth be told, that anti-“racism” means anti-White.

103 thoughts on “Tim Wise Hates Whites”

  5. Tanstaafl. Thanks for the Link. Amazing how close they are. But when one group constantly speaks and acts on a consistent basis, it is possible to mimic it, even for dumb goyim.

    Did you notice the recent:

    “Goyim were born only to serve us.” Rabbi Yosef

  8. A key line: “You have won a small battle in a larger war the meaning of which you do not remotely understand.”

    He is talking about the ignorance than mainstream conservatives have about the racial struggle going on, which he does know about and is engaging in against whites.

    Wise reveals a great deal about himself that people like us already understand, but now everyone can see his hate.

  10. Has someone gotten a copy of this to Mencius or Auster?

    I’d love to see their feet held to the fire on this one.

    I doubt even Moldbug can square the circle here, especially with that vehement “you” that repeats every other line, like the incantations in a curse.

    More Calvinist Universalism? What drives Wise’s hate?

    He is only half Jewish, after all.

    An apposite quote:

    “Now begins the great last revolution. In gaining political power the Jew casts off the few cloaks that he still wears. The democratic people’s Jew becomes the blood-Jew and tyrant over peoples. In a few years he tries to exterminate the national intelligentsia and by robbing the peoples of their natural intellectual leadership makes them ripe for the slave’s lot of permanent subjugation.

    The most frightful example of this kind is offered by Russia, where he killed or starved about thirty million people with positively fanatical savagery, in part amid inhuman tortures, in order to give a gang of Jewish journalists and stock exchange bandits domination over a great people.”

    Not long now. Wish we had more numbers on our side. Oh well.

  12. when people of color could legally be kept from voting solely because of race, or holding certain jobs, or living in certain neighborhoods, or run out of other towns altogether when the sun would go down, or be strung up from trees

    Today, right now:

    – Whites are pilloried for voting by race, despite our vote being consistently less skewed than any group of “people of color”.

    – Whites are passed over for jobs, college admissions, political appointments – with preference explicitly given to less qualified “people of color”.

    – Whites are blamed for fleeing our once clean, friendly and safe neighborhoods made less clean, friendly and safe by newly arrived “people of color”.

    – Whites are run out of town altogether, 24/7/365 – robbed, raped, murdered, cut into pieces and stuffed in garbage cans by “people of color”.

    This anti-White reality, coupled with the constant, hypocritical race-based libels and guilt-tripping from self-proclaimed anti-“racists”, is what Wise calls “White Privilege”.

  13. It’s kind of refreshing to hear the hate so out in the open. Unfortunately not many white people have heard of him. Please email this around and be sure to point out Tim Wise is a JEW.

    Does anyone here know how to access the comments at Wise’s site? I don’t want to register or post a comment but am curious to read them.

  14. It’s hard to know what to make of this guy. He’s so over the top you’re tempted not to take him seriously.

  15. “Go back to trading your derivatives, engaging in rampant financial speculation that produces nothing of value, that turns the whole world into your personal casino. Whatever.”

    Hmm, this part was interesting. He’s either a projecting true-believer, or throwing up a typical smokescreen.

  16. Has someone gotten a copy of this to Mencius or Auster?

    I’d love to see their feet held to the fire on this one.

    Auster sides with Wise in that he thinks Whites are warring on “the jews”. Auster could perhaps find fault with Wise, but only to the extent he sees White extinction as bad for “the jews”, because then of course we would no longer be able to protect “the jews” from all the other “people of color”.

    Mencius Moldbug busies himself spinning hyper-loquacious theories of “liberalism” that even merely super-loquacious Auster can’t stomach (other than to disseminate and host discussion thereof). Moldbug’s abstruse narratives are most notable for being stuffed with heterodox esoterica, often remote in both time and space, and for the curiously insignificant role his loud, pushy, ever-present, super-wealthy half-tribe plays.

    In a way, Auster and Moldbug are less vulgar, more subtle versions of Wise. They’re storytellers, and in every story sooner or later we find out that Whites are the bad guys and “the jews” are just helpless victims.

    To the list of White-bashing/jew-excusing jewish raconteurs I would also add James Howard Kunstler. Yet another “social critic”, Kunstler is as foul-mouthed as Wise and he’s just as obsequious to and considerate of the needs and interests of “people of color”, especially in contrast to his distrust and distaste for Whites and our culture. Wise’s use of “cornpone” echoes Kunstler.

  17. Wise’s little screed is also discussed at MR. A comment there refers to previous comments at Sailer’s which “makes it pretty clear here that his “White like me” shtick is bullshit and that he’s motivated by his sense of “persecution” stemming from his Jewishness.”

    His inability to keep his “us” and “them” straight is the tipoff.

    That Sailer thread is full of interesting insights, like:

    One responder suggests that Tim grew up a 1/2 jew surrounded by mean goyim;I think the opposite may be true.He may have been surrounded by jews contemptuous of his status as a 1/2 jew,and felt the need to prove his worthiness by loudly declaiming against the lousy goyim and their phoney god,Jesus.

    Another says:

    Actually, I think he went to a Hebrew school. It might be that as a technical non-Jew (his mother is a gentile), he felt inadequate and decided to take it out on white gentiles. I’ll bet he’s got some issues about that, and secretly resents Jews.

    Another corrects:

    From the article you intended to link to (link was broken), we find that Tim Wise is indeed anti-Zionist but that it is not out of resentment of Jews, but instead out of concern for the good of “world Jewry”.

    That original article, http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2003-01/20wise.cfm, is gone, but Crimes of Zion: M.L.K and Zionism quotes Wise providing the relevent bits:

    Because of my criticisms of Israel–and because I as a Jew am on record opposing Zionism philosophically–the Des Moines shtetl decided I was unfit to speak at an MLK event. After sending the supposed King quote around, and threatening to pull out all monies from the Jewish community for future NCCJ events, I was dropped. The attack of course was based on a distortion of my own beliefs as well. Federation principal Mark Finkelstein claimed I had shown a disregard for the well-being of Jews, despite the fact that my argument has long been that Zionism in practice has made world Jewry less safe than ever.

    That sheds some light on what Anonymous 11/04/2010 03:51:00 above perceptively identified as a key line in Wise’s most recent expectoration: “You have won a small battle in a larger war the meaning of which you do not remotely understand.”

    I think it would help if Wise would explain this war in more detail. Is it related to the war Murdoch, Phillips, and Auster are fighting? Can we count on them to help us help more people understand?

  20. “It’s hard to know what to make of this guy. He’s so over the top you’re tempted not to take him seriously.”

    In vino veritas would be my guess, slightly back-tracking once the vino has worn off.

  21. He’s revealing exactly how Jews have viewed White people for centuries. His statements could have been written by super Gentile-hating rabbis. In fact, they remind me of some of them. Just replace his “they” and “we” with “we Jews” and it’s clear:

    “[We Jews] know, but you do not, that justice is not for the sprinters, but rather for the long distance runners who will be hitting their second wind, right about the time that you collapse from exhaustion.”

    …[We Jews] have to study you, to pay careful attention, to adjust their body armor accordingly, and to memorize your sleep patterns.

    “You, on the other hand, need know nothing whatsoever about [us Jews]. And this, will surely prove politically fatal to you in the end. For it means you will not know their resolve. [We Jews’ resolve to destroy White people.] Will not fear it, as you should.

    “It means you will take [we Jews’] greatest strength — perseverance — and make of it a weakness, called losing.

    “And those who suffer know how to suffer, which is to say [we Jews] know how to survive: a skill that is in short supply amid the likes of you.

    “And [we Jews] know how to regroup, and plot, and plan, and they are planning even now — we [Jews] are — your destruction.

    “And I do not mean by that your physical destruction. We [Jews] don’t play those games. [We Jews are much more sophisticated than that.] We’re not into the whole “Second Amendment remedies, militia, armed resistance” bullshit that your side fetishizes, cuz, see, we don’t have to be. We [Jews] don’t need guns.

    We [Jews] just have to be patient.

    And wait for you to pass into that good night, first politically, and then, well [demographically, as our rabbis have envisioned]…

  22. I apologize for my broken english , being french , but I wanted to say we have the same kind of clown in Europe . The name is daniel Coh(e)n-Bendit ( and the strange is : physically , don’t they really look like each other ? ) .( Google joung Daniel Cohn-Bendit ) Don’t they really look like some fat castratos ? This bendit is a well-known pedophile in France ( but this fact doesn’t prevent this scum to sell his anti-racism/anti-white propaganda in france for 50 years ! ) . Its the same guy who said in germany, that he loved so much Germany that he wanted to see this country filled at 75% with non-whites . Strange kind of love , isn’t it ?
    I’m sure there is some sexual madness/ disorder in this . They love so much white males ( in the case of bendit white children ) and like hysterical females want to see disappear the real objet that DESPISES them ?
    ( The so-called shoah religion is their only goal in life too : Some masochist fantasm with white people they need ) .

  24. You got it exactly right with your comment @11:16am, Tan. All the comments seem to be from people who are awake.

    “This is said to be, “From a 1936 series of International Judaic speeches at the B’nai B’rith – B’nai B’rith is the Judaic Parent organization of the world-wide Judaic Anti Defamation League (ADL)”.

    “…As long as there remains among the Gentiles any moral conception of the social order, and until all faith, patriotism, and dignity are uprooted, our [International Judaics] reign over the world shall not come…And the Gentiles, in their stupidity, have proved easier dupes than we expected them to be. One would expect more intelligence and more practical common sense, but they are no better than a herd of sheep. Let them graze in our fields till they become fat enough to be worthy of being immolated to our future King of the World [satan/antichrist]…

    …Martin Luther [the leader of the Great Reformation] yielded to the influence of his Jewish friends unknowingly, and again, by Jewish authority, and with Jewish finance, his plot against the Catholic Church met with success. But unfortunately he discovered the deception, and became a threat to us, so we disposed of him as we have so many others who dare to oppose us [Martin Luther may have been slowly poisoned to death] …

    Many countries, including the United States have already fallen for our scheming.”…. [Continues in the right sidebar of the link].

    http://www.biblestudysite.com/#media

    Incogman nails Wise, too.

    “Oh yeah, this Tim Wise guy is indeed a Jew, alright. He’s even said so HERE. This is how these slick Jew hypocrites operate: Pretend to be just some regular old White guy to the general public — only one who has seen the light about “race privilege” (new Jewy intelligentsia term for racism) and how totally evil Whites have been in the past (we must be slave owner descendants forever). All the while he makes good money doing his Jew thing. He’s not the only tricky Jew working this tiresome schtick. Hell, they have multi-million dollar outfits like the SPLC and the ADL hard at work doing the same thing.”

    http://incogman.net/11/2010/anti-racist-tim-wise-shows-us-his-inner-jew/#comments

    Flanders

  30. Sorry about the multiple postings, Tan. They were posting each attempt, while it was being indicated that they would not post.

    Flanders

  33. Have you ever read the stuff at Jewish Tribal Review? When Victims Rule?

    I have. It’s full of hair-raising, eye-opening documents, including When Victims Rule. A Critique of Jewish Pre-eminence in America.

    As Joe Sobran wrote in The Jewish Faction:

    It’s permissible to discuss the power of every other group, from the Black Muslims to the Christian Right, but the much greater power of the Jewish Establishment is off-limits. That, in fact, is the chief measure of its power: its ability to impose its own taboos while tearing down the taboos of others — you might almost say its prerogative of offending.

    Tim Wise illustrates this perfectly. He makes his living bashing Whites, who he claims have unseen power and privilege, meanwhile people who vex jews lose their jobs.

  35. Mangan’s commenter Nanonymous provides a link to Wise’s response to the response: Reading Comprehension 101: Text, Subtext and the Politics of Misinterpretation.

    Wise writes:

    To wit, after my latest piece on the election results went viral, there have been more than a few folks who have written to say how appalled they were by my “attack on white people,” or my “attack on America,” or my “hateful diatribe” in which I “gleefully anticipate the death of the elderly” and the “initiation of violent payback of whites writ large by people of color” once whites become a less prominent portion of the national population, a few decades hence. In other words, putting aside the inherent absurdity of this interpretation — I am white after all, as are my kids, as is my wife, as is my momma, all my immediate family and my best friend too — some who read the piece believe against all logic and in the face of plain English (however aggressive the piece may be), that I have announced, excitedly, the coming of a glorious race war and the end of white people.

    (Sigh).

    So perhaps we should start with the obvious, for those a bit too slow to begin the reading of the essay with, ya know, the title. For if one reads the title, “An Open Letter to the White Right, On the Occasion of Your Recent, Successful Temper Tantrum,” one would almost immediately discover an important nugget of relevant information; information that rather clearly spells out who is being critiqued in the piece, and thus, to whom my ire is being directed. It is not white people. It is not the white elderly. It is the white right, as in right-wing.

    Sooooo, in a nutshell it’s all our fault. We’re too slow and misinterpreted his use of the word “war”, his celebration of the demographic eclipse (Senõr) and ultimate “destruction” of Whites in general, and his gleeful identification with “the decent size minority of us white folks” (the majority of which are no doubt White-hating jews) who will help “crush” the rest of us electorally, until our hearts stop beating.

    I think this means Wise won’t be telling us any more about the larger war he says we do not remotely understand.

  36. On his site Wise had to close the comments for both the “Open Letter” and his subsequent backtracking for his call for racial genocide. That tells how the comments were going.

  38. I found Colin’s quote in Mein Kampf. That link is only excerpts. Presumably jewishvirtuallibrary.org makes them available for the same reason I’ve archived and republished Wise’s anti-White screed. If we want more than a remote understanding of Wise’s “war”, then better to be informed all around.

  39. Let’s do the math. Wise is explicitly responding to Tuesday’s Republican landslide. So by “right-wing,” he means “those who voted Republican on Tuesday.” That’s who he addressed the piece to; the majority of white Americans.

    So yeah, pretty clear he means white Americans.

    If you want to see more of this 3/4 Ashkenazi’s un-American, commissar demeanor, try a G**gle for his correspondence with Birdman Bryant. He rants and raves like a psycho, then Bryant publishes his emails for the world to see, then he threatens to sue Bryant for publishing his emails.

  40. Wise reveals a great deal about himself that people like us already understand, but now everyone can see his hate.

    Indeed. I’m going to be making hay from that piece for years to come.

  41. Ethnopatriots have been making hay from this on Sailer’s blog, Mangan’s, here, and I’ll probably find stuff at OD and MR when I check. Watch him get pounded over and over, and watch him fail to respond directly to anyone who isn’t famous.

    The guy’s a wuss. He couldn’t argue his way out of a paper bag – all his college debate experience taught him, apparently, is to avoid debate like the plague.

  42. Vanishing American has exposed the falsity of the term for those who are called by the erroneous label, “self-hating Whites”, and who lend their support to Wise or other of the cultural marxists.

    “To me, it seems that anybody who claims to have transcended normal ties of blood and kinship is some kind of freak of nature, or perhaps a deviant in a racial sense. That attitude is not natural, and just as the Left has normalized sexual perversion, where people feel unnatural attractions for the same sex or for other inappropriate objects, they have normalized unnatural racial feelings. They are the masters at calling evil good, and good evil.”

    http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2010/11/hate-free.html

    Flanders

  43. OD has had a series of posts about Wise. In the most recent, Tim Wise at Georgia Tech, there is some discussion of Wise retroactively editing his original rant. Tim Wise: Anxiously Awaiting the Death of White America , at American White Pride Network, highlights what he’s changed.

    From what I can tell the copy I posted above is the original. I suspected he would try to disappear it. He may yet, especially after this lame attempt to modify it.

    Sailer on An Uncle Tim:

    Something this lucid seem hardly like an idiosyncratic effusion. Instead, it’s the product of a clear worldview. I don’t think most of Tim’s political allies have thought this through as fully as he has, but I think the emotions and basic logic are, indeed, widespread. We’ve heard endlessly about Republican anger and hatred, but Freud’s concept of “projection” remains a highly useful one to keep in mind when reading the newspaper.

    airtommy writes:

    I have a problem with the phrase “Uncle Tim”. An “Uncle Tom” is a black person who is disloyal to his ethnic group. This guy Tim Wise is pretending to be white and selling out his ethnic group, but of course he is an ethnic Jew who considers himself apart from white Gentiles. He is criticizing his ethnic group’s #1 rival for power. He isn’t selling out at all.

    Alex Kurtagic writes:

    Through his subsequent actions, Tim has in fact given us the best ammunition. Following appalled reactions to his open letter, he shut down the comments box, edited the ending, and issued a lengthy and detailed letter of explanation, which of course does nothing but confirm the truth of what we saw in the original text.

    A reminder, if any was needed, that there can be no appeasement, no compromise, no possible accommodation, with the faction he represents.

  45. Jewish Tribal Review.

    Ah yes, what a shock to my poor deluded middle class liberal senses. It was the first jew-wise site I accidently stumbled across. I devoured it for 2 months and was 2 weeks into it before I realized it was a dead site.

    Hats off to the author.

  46. “If we want more than a remote understanding of Wise’s “war”, then better to be informed all around.”

    As you imply, the Nazis did indeed have a more visceral, and therefore more profound, understanding of what the Jews are up to than MacDonald’s at times tediously circuitous “evolutionary” explanation.

    “I found Colin’s quote in Mein Kampf.”

    Remember when Takuan Seiyo so fit to quote my remark about hoisting the Swastika up the flag pole meaning “game over” for the Jews at Gates of Vienna? That was the one that stuck with him because at the deepest level he knows that “Nazis” are the only ones with the balls to ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING about the Jews. The rest they can laugh at as suckers, chumps, and bourgeois cowards. (Too bad the English* will never figure that out.)

    *Why this seemingly obsessive emphasis on (the) English? Well, let’s face it, what Nordics do will pretty much decide the fate of the race. And what Nordics do will be decided by which way they go, the Kraut way or the English way. Nuff said.

  47. get a white gentile grandmother to ask a republican senator or congressman what he thinks about the recent rabbi’s statement about goyim’s place in the world and tim wise’s statement in a town hall and make sure you got the cameras rolling

    1) cut off US funding of Israel
    2) eliminate muslim immigration
    3) monroe doctrine type statement about US response to any muslim 911 repeat hint: big frappes
    4) profiling to replace scanners at airports – white women don’t exist to be groped when they opt out of the body scans

  48. You have won a small battle in a larger war the meaning of which you do not remotely understand.

    This is the one thing I’d agree with. Most of them do not understand. If they did they wouldn’t put half as much faith and hope in the republicans. Wise knows this. It’s a injoke hidden meaning swipe at whites not realising how blinded they have become.

    ‘Cuz there is nothing even slightly original about you.

    Yeah. Voting republican or voting for anything else is not an original way of trying to save your people.

    Michael Meyers, Freddie Kreuger, Jason, and that asshole husband in that movie with Julia Roberts who tracks her down after she runs away and changes her identity–they are all done.

    The hell they are since they’re the creation of your kind Wise, and your kind are not done are they. Expect plenty more of that hollywood filth this century.

    There won’t be any more white folks around who think the 1950s were the good old days, because there won’t be any more white folks around who actually remember them, and so therefore, we’ll be able to teach about them accurately and honestly, without hurting your precious feelings, or those of the so-called “greatest generation” — a bunch whose white members were by and large a gaggle of miscreants who helped save the world from fascism only to return home and oppose the ending of it here, by doing nothing to lift a finger on behalf of the civil rights struggle.

    Chutzpah with a capital C. They only helped defeat fascism and if there had been real fascism in 1950s America it would have taken the same things to defeat is as it took to defeat Germany ( tanks, bombs and disciplined soldiers who greatly outnumbered their German betters ) instead of a bunch of jewish politicans, writers, lobbyists and the illdisciplined slacker goyish hippies they brainwashed sticking flowers in the guns of soldiers who allowed them to do it.

    And by then you will have gone all in as a white nationalist movement — hell you’ve all but done that now — thus guaranteeing that the folks of color, and even a decent size minority of us white folks will be able to crush you, election after election, from the Presidency on down to the 8th grade student council.

    Us white folks? There I was thinking you were something else. You want to crush the hand that feeds you? And your beloved Israel?. And you think the teapartiers are a wn movement? Imagine a real wn movement that might be on the way. I think you and your kosher pals already have and it scares the shit out of you.

    Like I said, this shit is math, baby. And numbers don’t lie.

    Israel isn’t maths is it .Its more about leeching off the white American taxpayer and a very ruthless attitude. They’re still there. This shit is math because for now white people allow it to be.

    If you thought this election was payback for 2008, remember…

    Payback, thy name is…

    Temporary.

    What makes you think democracy itself is not tempory. Can this go on. Do you think the 21st century white man’s capacity for taking shit is infinate just because he’s such a pussy compared to his forefathers. I don’t think its infinate.

  49. Captain,

    I think we’d all appreciate it if you would keep your boring, useless, never-ending English versus German trolling confined to one website.

  50. The fact that white conservatives are supporting things that happen to be good for white people and opposing things that happen to be bad for white people, does not mean that they are ready to defend themselves as whites against the anti-white white left and the anti-white nonwhites.

    I can illustrate this by means of an anecdote. Once, years ago, I went to Jones Beach with a friend. Loud radios were everywhere. We asked a lifeguard if there was a place on the beach where radios were not allowed, and were told there was one. We went to that area. It was a blissfully quiet oasis without radios playing. It also was completely white, while the rest of the beach was mostly nonwhite.

    Many conservatives whites will ask for the radio-free area, and thus find themselves in an all-white part of the teach. But they will never explicitly identify the connection between whiteness and no radios. They will not say to themselves, “If I want a beach with no radios, that means I want a beach with no nonwhites.” In the same way, they will not say to themselves, “If we want to preserve American and Western civilization, we need a white majority society with that is governed by white standards and ideals.”

    And the primary reason they will not say this to themselves is not that they fear being called racist. It is that, having fully internalized the teachings of modern liberalism, they sincerely believe that any white racial consciousness is immoral and disgusting. As long as that is their belief, conservative whites will continue to pursue values which are substantively white, even as they continue to embrace a liberal value system which assures the ongoing extinction of whiteness.

    Here is the article at SBPDL: MORE…

    Posted by Lawrence Auster at 01:48 PM

  51. Tan, Here is a link to a video which should not be overlooked.

    http://incogman.net/11/2010/anti-racist-tim-wise-shows-us-his-inner-jew/comment-page-4/#comment-74767

    My own comment (revised) is from earlier at the same link:
    ________

    Here is a report following the Dubai assasination done by Israeli agents which we should never let out of our White American minds. Let’s remember that not included in the figures cited by the jewish newspaper named below are the unknown numbers of jewish-touted hasbara, those jews worldwide who conduct favorable media reporting and swing media views exclusively to the interests of jews and Israel (and that it does not include references to the already fully jewish-controlled media of all types; TV, newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, major wire services, nor the not insignificant amounts of jewish control over internet content and portal sites as well).

    [This section is referring to a February 26, 2010, report done by the Jewish Chronicle – Flanders].

    “On 26th February the paper, under the heading “Million Jews aid Mossad says writer on Radion 4” tried to pooh-pooh information that Israel’s foreign intelligence service, Mossad, has recruited a million Jews world-wide to assist with its espionage activities.

    This denial of Mossad’s million helpers among Diaspora Jewry studiously failed to mention the existence of a sub-unit of Mossad known as the “Sayanim” [= “Helpers”].

    Sayanim are Jews who live in and hold the citizenship of lands outside Israel who are recruited clandestinely by Mossad to help with its operations, i.e. providing ’safe houses’, transportation, access to communications networks and other facilities, official documents, etc., etc.”
    ——

    Could this be the reason behind these confident statements made by Tim Wise?:

    “In forty years or so, maybe fewer, there won’t be any more white people around who actually remember that Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best, Opie-Taylor-Down-at-the-Fishing Hole cornpone bullshit that you hold so near and dear to your heart.”

    Or

    “There won’t be any more white folks around who think the 1950s were the good old days, because there won’t be any more white folks around who actually remember them, and so therefore, we’ll be able to teach about them accurately and honestly, without hurting your precious feelings, or those of the so-called “greatest generation” — a bunch whose white members were by and large a gaggle of miscreants who helped save the world from fascism only to return home and oppose the ending of it here, by doing nothing to lift a finger on behalf of the civil rights struggle.

    So to hell with you and all who revere you.

    By then, half the country will be black or brown. And there is nothing you can do about it.”

    [“His Spanish is BS, it’s actually “Lo.” He’s trying to be idiomatically cute here, by saying: “You have it so bad” or “You’re screwed, motherf**ker” like some Cuban revolutionary.” – This bracketed comment is Incogman’s at: http://www.Incogman.net]

    Incogman pegged Wise exactly.
    Tim Wise obviously had in mind what was earlier astutely pointed out at 3:51am at Age of Treason by Anonymous:

    “You have won a small battle in a larger war the meaning of which you do not remotely understand.”

    Will Wise will help people to understand what they need to understand – that it is not only Tim Wise, but at least a million other jews, who are trying covertly (less so all the time) to push their revolution against all Americans and more specifically against all Whites whereever they may live?

    Flanders

    11/07/2010 12:54:31 PM [1st attempted posting]

  52. Robert excerpts Auster’s Is the Republican resurgence a white resurgence?

    And the primary reason they will not say this to themselves is not that they fear being called racist. It is that, having fully internalized the teachings of modern liberalism, they sincerely believe that any white racial consciousness is immoral and disgusting. As long as that is their belief, conservative whites will continue to pursue values which are substantively white, even as they continue to embrace a liberal value system which assures the ongoing extinction of whiteness.

    Of course “modern liberalism” is more accurately described as judeo-liberalism. Under judeo-liberalism White racial consciousness is regarded as immoral and disgusting, while at the same time non-White and jewish racial consciousness is regarded as righteous and normal. The idea is that Africa is for Africans, Israel is for “the jews”, and White countries are for Africans and “the jews”. Wise calls it “white privilege”.

    Under judeo-liberalism “the jews” – liberal, conservative or otherwise – are treated like gods, and blasphemy against them is severely punished. “The jews” use their substantive overrepresentation in law, finance, politics and media to shape opinion and lecture the rest of us about what is or isn’t moral. For “the jews” morality equates to what is or isn’t good for “the jews”. They disagree on some aspects, but there is near unanimous agreement on the immorality and disgusting nature of White racial consciousness.

    Tim Wise and Lawrence Auster both put on a “white” identity to facilitate their preaching to Whites. With Wise the emphasis is on pathologizing White racial consciousness as immoral and disgusting, distorting the nature of “racism”. With Auster the emphasis is on pathologizing “anti-semitism” as immoral and disgusting, distorting the nature of “liberalism”. Under judeo-liberalism Whites are being driven to extinction. Wise celebrates it and taunts Whites. Auster doesn’t think it’s good for “the jews” and taunts Whites. The majority of “the jews” either don’t care or agree with Wise.

    This will continue as long as Whites embrace a judeo-liberal value system that puts everyone else’s interests over our own.

  53. Auster has finally offered his View from the emphatically lowercase “white” Right on Wise. How conservatives respond to a racial genocidal indictment of themselves. It’s very brief:

    Good points by Sophia. Several readers had sent me the Tim Wise article, which I have read, but I didn’t want to write about it, because it is demented, and I don’t think that madness should be treated seriously.

    At the same time, stripped of the insane hatred, the Wise article is making points that liberals commonly make, and that mainstream conservatives never (as Sophia points out) reply to adequately. So I may try to write about it soon.

    When Auster wants to ignore something he labels it demented. Just like the deracinated jew-blind conservatives he regularly scolds.

    When people do respond adequately to “liberals”, pointing out the nature of judeo-liberalism for instance, Auster gets demented about “anti-semitism”. I won’t hold my breath waiting for him to write more on Wise, but I’m sure we can count on him to continue writing frequent open letters to the “anti-semitic” Whites he hates.

  54. “your boring, useless, never-ending English versus German trolling”

    I fear you may be projecting your own boredom with the “pro-Jew/anti-White” formulation onto my novel and exciting “pro-English/anti-Kraut” paradigm.

  55. The Kraut method was very effective hence the other side spending 60 years conditioning people to automatically reject it.

    Hence the subsequent need for some Anglo cunning to derail that conditioning.

  57. For the umpteenth time, the whole Kraut vs. English style (whatever “English style” is supposed to mean) debate is plain stupid. Either requires a mass movement. Which is likely to inspire a mass movement in America; English style, or Kraut?

    If we get a mass movement, either style is an option. If we don’t, neither is. But “English style” is the only way to get a mass movement.

  58. And the primary reason they will not say this to themselves is not that they fear being called racist. It is that, having fully internalized the teachings of modern liberalism, they sincerely believe that any white racial consciousness is immoral and disgusting.

    You speak as if of fact, but you have no proof. You don’t even have evidence.

    I can say Russians loved the Party, but would it really be responsible to pretend it was more than speculation?

    If people get the stick for getting out of line, or even talking too much like they might be thinking out of line, or even talking too much about PRECISELY WHAT is out of line, or why, we have no way of knowing what they’re really thinking.

    IMO, after much (on and off over years) careful thought, so-called “anti-racism” among whites is a mile wide and an inch deep. And without the stick, you’d see some very, very different behaviors.

  60. A critical point in reaching that conclusion was realizing that so-called “anti-racism” is actually a white tribal marker, which is why it has staying power, and precisely why it’s disingenuous (impossible to really be against a white identity or peoplehood when the only reason you believe what you do is to fit in with other white folks).

  62. Another good quote from Horowitz, which I’m sure many readers here have seen:

    What my parents had done in joining the Communist Party and moving to Sunnyside was to return to the ghetto. There was the same shared private language, the same hermetically sealed universe, the same dual posturing revealing one face to the outer world and another to the tribe. More importantly, there was the same conviction of being marked for persecution and specially ordained, the sense of moral superiority toward the stronger and more numerous goyim outside.
    ********************************

    This tale accords well with Stephen Steinlight’s recounting of his childhood:

    I’ll confess it, at least: like thousands of other typical Jewish kids of my generation, I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months for 10 formative years during my childhood and adolescence I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colors, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language, learned foreign folk songs and dances, and was taught that Israel was the true homeland. Emigration to Israel was considered the highest virtue, and, like many other Jewish teens of my generation, I spent two summers working in Israel on a collective farm while I contemplated that possibility. More tacitly and subconsciously, I was taught the superiority of my people to the gentiles who had oppressed us. We were taught to view non-Jews as untrustworthy outsiders, people from whom sudden gusts of hatred might be anticipated, people less sensitive, intelligent, and moral than ourselves. We were also taught that the lesson of our dark history is that we could rely on no one.
    *********************************

    And these are from “rightist” jews. With friends like that …

    Maybe we can get Timmy Wise to entertain us with stories of his upbringing.

  63. “the whole Kraut vs. English style (whatever “English style” is supposed to mean) debate is plain stupid.”

    There are real sociobiological differences between the English and Germans. The English are per their genetic baseline more individualistic, more materialistic, less idealistic and more morally vain than are Germans. So needless to say, when it comes to implementing strategies of group defense, this has real implications.

    The Jews are a constant in the equation of our racial decline. They are a given. What we do is not. There is more plasticity possible in our collective behavior than is possible for Jews. We beat the Jews, and save ourselves, by holding up a mirror to ourselves so that we may know what to change to achieve the former. No one said it would be painless.

    I know what I’m doing. There is a method to my ostensible “madness”.

    “But “English style” is the only way to get a mass movement.”

    As stands, there is now no possibility of a mass movement sans change of the zeitgeist. And once that is changed, who is to say what is possible?

  64. “hyper-loquacious”

    “super-loquacious”

    That is one sound indication that you are dealing with a kike online. It was one of the unmistakable give-aways which allowed me to before any others discern the true genetic identities of “Dweeb” Engel over at MacDonald’s blog, and Diamed, formerly of Majority Rights. White men of equal or superior intellectual stature simply don’t write like that. They write to describe clearly, to be understood, not to bamboozle and drown their readers, and frankly themselves, in a sea of prolixity.

  66. http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017871.html

    Why are so many Americans unable to recognize obviously Jewish people as Jewish?

    A correspondent said he hadn’t known that David Brooks was Jewish. I replied:

    Of course he’s Jewish.

    It’s a puzzle. There are many Americans who for some reason lack the internalized set of parameters for recognizing Jewishness.

    The correspondent replied:

    Yeah, and not only that, I can’t tell a Jew from a lamp post. Unless the lamp post is named Finkelstein.

    A strange post from Auster. It’s never going to be as apparent to a white who is Jewish as it is to Auster, as we don’t constantly obsess over Jewish identity like they do.

    Second, Auster should ask himself if it isn’t a good thing that the goyim can be so Jew-blind. Once you start recognizing that pattern, your opinion of philo-semitism starts to change. My guess is that a good portion of Auster’s white readers are as Jew-naive as the correspondent he quotes.

  67. Auster: “In the 1970s and ’80s, the neoconservatives did have honor and intellectual honesty, and played a positive and at times heroic role in American intellectual and political life.”

  68. “Second, Auster should ask himself if it isn’t a good thing that the goyim can be so Jew-blind. Once you start recognizing that pattern, your opinion of philo-semitism starts to change”

    All the time i was on the left i never noticed the jews until Israel built their wall. It then became obvious the people who were the the most fanatically open borders advocates for the west had the opposite opinion when it came to Israel.

    Once you notice and then look with those new eyes it becomes obvious that the left wouldn’t exist as a coherent force without the jews. They are what holds together what is in reality a highly disparate collection of pressure groups.

  69. To CaptianChaos and his critics:

    The formulation “English v. German” is a very limited conceptual tool that emerges from a specific attempt to honestly discuss the Anglo-Saxon question at MR. It has no more validity than conclusions about the Jewish Question over at Auster’s site, given that MR is possessed of an Anglo-Saxon first, last, and always attitude that may well be the death of us all.

    The good Captain’s error lies in limiting the damage to ‘The English’, while a deeper examination of the problem shows clearly that the American ruling class – The Northeastern Elite – are also philosemitic to a fatal degree, obsessed with financial swindles and the fostering of debt slavery, possess deep anti-national and anti-racial sentiment of ancient provenance, and suffer all the other deformations of soul and persona attendant upon a profound sense of being ‘chosen’. “I am my brother’s keeper/ jailer” – is written on every Low Church heart.

    I recommend that all parties read William Joyce’s ‘Twilight Over England’ to understand what went wrong in the scepter’d isle long ago, and how that deformation of the Aryan ‘type’ into duplicitous, aggressive moneygetters incapable of self-examinaton or reproach emerged.

    I would say that after Capital and Jewry, Anglo-Saxonism – in England and the United States, is the greatest problem before us.

    Albion’s Seed and The Cousins Wars are good texts here as well.

  70. “I would say that after Capital and Jewry, Anglo-Saxonism – in England and the United States, is the greatest problem before us.”

    The biggest problem before us, even bigger than capital & jewry is people who want to argue about old wars instead of fighting the current one.

  71. For those to whom the Anglo-Saxon question is new, here is a popular song dating from 1723 that shows the whole syndrome was fully developed three hundred years ago, and probably longer.

    Pay special attention to the last verse: it covers miscegenation, non whites, and the preference for both over the hated French.

    What “Anonymous” finds tiresome is not something CaptainChaos just made up a few months ago to bother you MR types. It’s a mode of Anglo-Saxon being as being against Europe, even if that means recourse to miscegenation or calling in other races, which the Anglo-Saxons have done on countless occasions now. Three representative cases of Anglo-Saxon “blood blindness”:

    Arming American Indians to murder their own blood kin in America.

    Arming Negroes to kill Boers.

    The alignment with Russia during WWII to destroy all of European civilization.

    Ezra Pound, April 1943: “The supreme betrayal of Western civilization is manifest in the alliance
    with Russia. “

    The tune also demonstrates that this attitude was widespread and deep even prior to the integration of Jews into the aristocracy, press and course of Empire. The survival of our race and civilization, as if we did not have enough on our plates, is probably going to require a widespread rejection of Anglo-American ‘values’ along with rejection of emotional identification with AS history.

    =================

    So praise our bastard nation
    You can never trust a Frenchman,
    Nor any of their henchmen,
    Or Germans or Dutch
    Or the Belgians and such,
    They’re as bad as lawyers and benchmen.

    The grubby Europeans,
    Sing their own praise in paeans,
    But the Channel is wide
    Let them stay on their side,
    Where they’ve been for countless aeons.

    Their language sounds like twitter,
    All lips and teeth and squitter,
    Their cheese and their wine
    May be all of very fine.
    But you can’t beat English bitter.

    And French sophistication,
    Just gives you constipation,
    When they murmur amour
    We are all dead sure
    They’re the world’s least sexy nation.

    So let us raise our glasses,
    As England’s glory passes,
    To aristocrats
    And to middle-class prats,
    And the glorious working classes.

    The Scotsman has his sporran,
    Snug in his Glasgow warren,
    And the Welshman’s a lad
    And the Irish are mad,
    But none of us is foreign.

    So praise our bastard nation,
    An incredible creation,
    Of Latins and Celts
    And Saxons that melts
    Into pure miscegenation.

    And Welcome other races,
    With different shades of faces,
    Come and join in the song,
    Sing it with us so long
    As the French stay in their places!

    ============

    http://stmlcom.s3.amazonaws.com/You-Can-Never-Trust-A-Frenchman.mp3

    You can hear an mp3 of the song above. The .pdf for ‘Twilight Over England’ is here:

    http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres8/twilight.pdf

  72. Colin,

    Good to see your spurs affixed to your boots once again.

    However, I must disagree with you in the thrust of your contention that the anti-racial corruption which plagues Anglo-Saxondom is merely a cultural corruption – Judaized and so forth. “The English” are per their genes as I have stated. This means they are more vulnerable to succumb to what we mutually abhor all on their own; though I certainly do not mean to imply said is unavoidable and necessarily so. And then there is EGI. Were you not significantly, or predominantly, of German lineage – you clearly are – but English, you would most likely see it a different way. Or at least profess to because that is what’s “Good for the English” – as you would likely see it were you English.

    Perhaps a perusal of your recommended reading shall change my mind in accordance with your own.

    Cheers.

    Wanda,

    I have hitherto labored under the impression that “the” English are known for their cool heads. Something for you to shoot for, then.

    There’s a good chap.

  73. “Arming American Indians to murder their own blood kin in America.”

    As did all the other euro colonists.

    “Arming Negroes to kill Boers.”

    As did all the other euro colonists.

    “The alignment with Russia during WWII to destroy all of European civilization.”

    Along with the French, Dutch, Polish, Czechs, Serbs, Danes, Greeks etc

    You take things which are common to all or many groups and then pretend they are somehow unique to Anglo-saxons.

  74. No, it’s not merely competing tribes (“English vs. Germans”) – this at times getting quite nasty because they are, you know, adjacent – with a tribe evolved for parasitism (“the Jews”) thrown into the mix which complicates an already potentially explosive situation. It’s really about this, for want of a better term, “spirit of the race” stuff; which we can get in touch with by reading highfalutin literature written by the masters of our European tradition. And “the Jews”, of course, contrasting that as something almost approaching a metaphysical evil – empowered by their tinpot tribal desert deity.

    Pardon my scepticism and hint of sarcasm, Wint. Maybe I just don’t read enough Pound.

  75. Frederick the Great

    “All religions are just as good as each other, as long as the people who practice them are honest, and even if Turks and heathens came and wanted to populate this country, then we would build mosques and temples for them”(1)

    As quoted in Iron Kingdom: The Rise and Downfall of Prussia 1600-1947, by Christopher Clark, pp. 252-3.

  76. I also think it’s high time we explored the historic grievances between the Saxons and the Anglo-Saxons.
    Particularly here, even without the excuse of competing state nationalisms, as is the case in Europe, this isn’t something we should avoid.
    It’s not like we’re in the middle of a process of planned race replacement or something. First things first, genocide can wait.

  77. I just stumbled on this Wise screed from the 2008 election cycle: Your Whiteness is Showing. The subtitle is, “An Open Letter to Certain White Women Who Are Threatening to Withhold Support from Obama in November”. In it Wise makes it clear that what he cannot stand about leftist/feminist White women is their Whiteness.

    He concludes:

    But that day [when “us white folks” “have the right to dictate the terms of political engagement”] is done, whether you like it or not, and you are now left with two, and only two choices, so consider them carefully: the first is to stand now in solidarity with your black brothers and sisters and welcome the new day, and help to push it in a truly progressive and feminist and antiracist direction, while the second is to team up with white men to try and block the new day from dawning. Feel free to choose the latter. But if you do, please don’t insult your own intelligence, or ours, by insisting that you’ve done so as a radical political act.

    But of course, The Election is Over. Black brothers and sisters voted 96-4 for their brother. Whites voted 55-43 for theirs. Wise pathologizes the voting patterns of Whites, left or right, because he hates Whites. Period.

  78. Wandrin: *** the left wouldn’t exist as a coherent force without the jews. They are what holds together what is in reality a highly disparate collection of pressure groups. ***

    And without the Jewish organizers, there would be no consensus from the loony left in favor of race replacement. The leftists are being manipulated !

  79. Flanders,

    A comment of yours from days ago showed up just now in blogspot’s spam filter. I check daily and have no idea why it would take so long to show. The comment now appears above, dated 11/07/2010 12:54:31 PM.

    BTW, the video Incog embedded at “Anti-Racist” Tim Wise Shows Us His Inner Jew has been pulled: “This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by TWise Inc.”

  80. @Armor

    Yup. There’d still be multicultist pressure groups but without the jews the rainbow coalition wouldn’t exist as a bloc.

  81. Lol, a Mick writes a screed against the English. I skip over it after reading the first few sentences, but someone quotes it so I get the highlights.

    Then I move on. If it was the other way ’round, if I was a Mick being insulted by someone with an English handle, maybe I’d fire up the “Jew-lite” engines and run a sortie or two?

    Dunno. I’m not a Mick.

    This is the “irrational kookery” vis-a-vis the Oirish that the Micks at Mangan’s observe in me, I suppose.

    If pattern recognition is “irrational kookery,” I suppose I’ll go to my grave an “irrational kook.”

  82. Svigor, you’re a good bloke who I admire and respect for not only your intelligence and consistency in argument, but also your ability to deliver your message with wit.

    When someone of your stature makes jibes from time to time, it does make those who respect you, like myself, pause to reflect on the matter.

    Naturally I want to work out what is in jest and what is in seriousness, because of the esteem with which I hold you.

    As a Catholic one’s faith is bombarded disparagingly daily by the MSM, SWPL types who are self-deceptively Protestant i.e. post Protestant WASPS. They think they are above religion and sectarian strife yet still carry the age old hatreds and born to rule mentality which they bear out with anti-smoking, anti-drinking, pro-homosexual marriage, pro-abortion pro anything against traditional White culture.

    At times they seem as bad as the Jews who themselves hate Catholics with a vengeance.

    I believe that the only way forward for all Whites is to combine our efforts. We have more in common than in difference. This doesn’t mean we should all forget our own cultural and ethnic traditions but that there is a greater cause of common self-preservation.

    I don’t want you to give up your stirring ways. I like that aspect of yourself and I enjoy it. It’s as I said, a great facility for imparting your message entertainingly.

    Perhaps I was too touchy on the subject. My explanation is that at times I get pretty sick and tired of being told how dumb my people are, how pathetic and backward they are, how corrupt and superstitious my faith is, how we are the cause of Western ills, and the mockery and jubilation that follows whenever my people show weakness or failure.

    So I take back my reference that I too wonder if you are a bit kooky on the subject of the Irish and Catholics.

    I wish WASPs would realise that we aren’t your enemy, nor do we seek your annihilation. History would tell you that it was the WASPs who united with the Jews to create the calumny in the West today, and not some “ignorant” Catholic group activity undermining Western purity.

    So anyway Svigor, keep up the good fight, I wish you all the best. And I look forward to your continued top form at Mangans.

    Cheers,

    Pat Hannagan

  83. Without the “bloc” official Jews were unable to advance their cause.

    “It is apparent that a universalist philosophy underlay this Jewish-led phase of the Canadian equality movement, that the selected tactics genuinely represented the prevailing interpretation of the problem. It should be added, however, that the specific tactics also bore the influence of Jewish experience with anti-discriminatory campaigns before 1945, and a growing understanding of the kind of resistance Jewish initiatives typically met from Canadian legislators. Experience had taught that if Jews created an impression that they were seeking to advance their own cause, they would match the stereotype of “pushy Jews,” and their claims could be dismissed by the majority. (8) For both philosophical and tactical reasons, therefore, it was the case in the years immediately following World War II that Canadian Jewish organizations deliberately scouted opportunities to confront discriminatory practices against other, non-Jewish, minorities.”

    And certainly, the home front, during WWII, presented all sorts of “discriminatory” opportunities because of the mass migration of eastern and southern Europeans at the beginning of the 20th century. The Jewish effort was welcomed by other minorities because it was an enormous boon to the self-interest of individuals in those groups.

  84. Pat, that came out harsher than I’d like, looking at it now in retrospect. You’ve been a good guy about the whole thing and I respect that.

    I just wanted to point out that Irish-Americans seem to be among those who bash WASPs (who almost never defend themselves) in this country, then they come out of the woodwork when anybody dares criticize them or fondle their sensitive parts. And it gets old after a while.

    I would also like to clear up where I stand vis-a-vis ethnic loyalty. It’s complicated, so I’ll try to keep it brief. I consider myself American, but some might translate that as “English-American,” as I might if I didn’t consider that redundant. I also consider myself a Briton, again a non-redundant way of saying “Briton-American.” The latter is more appropriate, though I take up the English banner as a way to defend the maligned majority as much as a way to defend my own surname and bloodline, just as I identify as WASP.

    I hope that makes sense. In short, my central identity is “American largely descended from the British Isles,” and that’s my family. Irish very much included.

  85. I wish WASPs would realise that we (Irish) aren’t your enemy, nor do we seek your annihilation. History would tell you that it was the WASPs who united with the Jews to create the calumny in the West today, and not some “ignorant” Catholic group activity undermining Western purity.

    Ditto for Italians and other Southern European peoples here in America.

  86. I would also like to clear up where I stand vis-a-vis ethnic loyalty. It’s complicated, so I’ll try to keep it brief. I consider myself American, but some might translate that as “English-American,” as I might if I didn’t consider that redundant. I also consider myself a Briton, again a non-redundant way of saying “Briton-American.” The latter is more appropriate, though I take up the English banner as a way to defend the maligned majority as much as a way to defend my own surname and bloodline, just as I identify as WASP.

    Svig,

    As an admirer of your writings, I just wanted to know if you read Vanishing American’s (VA’s) blog(?), cause I do not remember you commenting there before.

  88. “First things first, genocide can wait.”

    There is a smoothness to your prose which I must commend. On the other hand, sarcasm deployed for rhetorics sake is in your hands a blunt little tool you cannot wield without disfiguring yourself – perhaps indicative of a lack of gravitas, and hence simple-mindedness. I enquire after first causes, and absolve you for failing to understand.

  89. “In fairness, I’m not sure that the poster Colin Laney (aka wintermute) is actually Irish.”

    He’s a Kraut. Bank on it.

  90. “Without the “bloc” official Jews were unable to advance their cause.”

    Not so. There were and are many leftist and liberal individuals and groups – unions in particular. There were and are minority ethnic groups. But it was jews who pulled them together into a bloc e.g NAACP.

    If jews vanished tomorrow the component parts of the “left” would split apart. They would still exist but would be much more split because the leaders (or the people standing behind the leaders) would no longer have a common agenda. They’d have their own separate agendas.

    Also the left/liberal agendas would be less extreme if jews weren’t pushing it from behind. jews aren’t involved in these groups to try and improve society they are involved to cause as much division as possible because they see division among the host population as good for the jews. Feminism for example would still have existed but it wouldn’t have been as extreme or divisive if it didn’t have the jewish eleemnt.

  93. Yes there were many liberal groups and unions…but they were nativists.

    “A particularly important factor in the plight of Jewish refugees was the widespread presence of Anti-semitism in Canada. This factor cannot be ignored or underestimated, although its impact is also sometimes overestimated. Historian David Rome wrote in Clouds in the Thirties (Vol. 11, p. 510): “The reluctance of the Canadian government to admit Jewish refugees in any great numbers was a fair reflection of public opinion […] which was a strong Anglo-Saxon nativism permeated with Anti-semitism”. Thus, even when Jews would have had the means to support themselves in Canada, they were often refused entry. For instance, after Kristallnacht (1938), the Canadian Jewish Congress was prepared to sponsor the coming, and guarantee the financial support of 10,000 Jewish refugees to Canada. Yet, the government of Canada rejected this proposal. The reason was simple: not only was immigration unpopular in the context of the Great Depression, but, as well, Anti-semitism was rife in Canada. The social exclusion of Jews was common in the institutions of English-speaking Canada while a vociferous anti-semitic discourse was heard in Quebec, spearheaded by the home-grown Nazi movement of Adrien Arcand, and legitimized by some members of the Catholic clergy and, otherwise, respectable newspapers such as Montreal’s Le Devoir…in 1946, a full year after the end of the war and of the disclosure of the horrors of the holocaust, a poll conducted by the Canadian Institute of Public Opinion showed that 60% of Canadians approved of the exclusion of Jews from Canadian immigration.”

    Again, the effort by Jews to advance the cause of Jews was bluntly rejected. It’s not until Jews began advancing the cause of the “Other” that the agenda was advanced.

  94. “I enquire after first causes, and absolve you for failing to understand.”

    Great is thy Greatness, your Majesty, for pardoning this simple-minded fella.

    What a dork.

  95. Anon,

    There is no “again.”

    My point is…

    Without jews “the left” would still exist but in a much more disparate form.

    The rainbow coalition exists as a cohesive bloc because of the jewish element holding it together.

    I’m not arguing about it. Go join the left for 20 years with your eyes open from the start and you’ll see for yourself.

  96. The point is that there would be no coalition if there was no rainbow and without the rainbow a Jewish agenda of anti-discrimination is seen, at that point in history, in the stark light of day as “pushy” Jews advancing a Jewish agenda.

    Yes the left did exist at that time. Sanger, Woodrow Wilson, Emily Murphy and the Women’s Auxiliary of the KKK, were, in Beck’s book, progressives. Women’s right to vote, women in the Senate, women changing divorce laws and alcohol prohibition were all such examples, however, in addition they were all racists. Each fully believed in the preservation, advancement and supremacy of the Anglo-Saxon/Nordic race.

  97. Anonymous: “Yes there were many liberal groups and unions…but they were nativists.”

    Instead of calling them nativists, racists, and antisemites, it would make more sense to say that the idea of replacing Canadians by other people had not yet been introduced.

    “Experience had taught that if Jews created an impression that they were seeking to advance their own cause, they would match the stereotype of “pushy Jews,” and their claims could be dismissed by the majority.”

    So what you say is that Jewish activists decided to import immigrants in order to be able to help themselves by helping immigrants in general. I don’t think this is true. When Jewish activists impose affirmative action for non-white immigrants, it doesn’t benefit the Jews themselves. In fact, Jews usually try to pass off as white Europeans. The Jews helped themselves, for example, by conquering positions in the media, politics, and academia. But they didn’t benefit from the civil rights movement that they masterminded. (Maybe they secured government-paid positions in the anti-racist business).

    “The point is that there would be no coalition if there was no rainbow”

    Are you talking about a racial rainbow only? I think the Judeo-bolsheviks took power in Russia without help from non-whites. There was a Jewish tactic of encouraging hostility between the classes, long before white workers were replaced by third-world immigrants. They have even encouraged the war of the sexes, and the rebellion of children against their parents. Long before there were any third-world immigrants, Jewish activists were busy organizing the leftists in destructive ways. It’s not the European leftists who suddenly took a passion for non-whites and forgot about the proletariat. I think it was a Jewish volte-face.

  98. The replacement had begun. It paralleled the mass migration of southern and eastern Europeans that was the US model. It included Jews from Eastern Europe. This is why there was a nativist reaction.

    The immigrants existed, however, Jews, initially, had no great affinity with European Catholics and others until there was an opportunity to serve Jewish interests.

    There ascension to power in the Soviet Union did not last long, possibly because they were seen as advancing Jewish interests.

  99. The jewish agenda of anti-discrimination and jewish emancipation precedes any rainbow with which they could coalition with. The slippery slope is that if jews can’t be discriminated/excluded then nobody can.

    Today the rationale is commonly reversed – jews get a pass because all forms of discrimination are evil – though this contradicts the historical order in which the various emancipations actually occurred. Surely it helps that jews now play such a prominent role in writing and teaching Western history and morals.

    Armor makes a good point about the bolshevik revolution – there was no non-White, gay, feminist, immigrant rainbow, but “anti-semtism” was punishable by death.

    There ascension to power in the Soviet Union did not last long, possibly because they were seen as advancing Jewish interests.

    You make a good point too. We who are harmed must note how jews advance their interests, directly or not.

  100. They used economic marxism and class division at first. They switched to “rainbow” politics with the switch to cultural marxism.

    My point about the left is not that it wouldn’t exist without jews but that it wouldn’t be anywhere near as strong, united or extreme without the jewish element.

    “But they didn’t benefit from the civil rights movement that they masterminded.”

    Divide and rule.

    I don’t think most of them really think through what they do. If you look at the version of their history they tell their children you can see they bring them up to be paranoid and that paranoia leads them to support whatever is the most divisive for the host population whether it’s feminism, civil rights, immigration, class conflict, regional conflict or anything else.

    On top of that the paranoia also lies behind their
    – hugely disproportionate political activism
    – hugely disproportionate political donations
    – hugely disproportionate inclination to work in opinion forming sectors like media and education

  101. As an example they’re anti-Christian in the west but in China they’ll be pro-Christian.

    As long as they remain cohesive themselves they benefit from the host nation being as divided as possible – at least for a while.

  102. Mencius Moldbug busies himself spinning hyper-loquacious theories of “liberalism” that even merely super-loquacious Auster can’t stomach (other than to disseminate and host discussion thereof).

    OT comedy break. Bottom of that link: Auster’s never heard of Marvin the Martian and thinks the crest on the Martian’s centurion-style helmet is a “broom.”

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