Last night I finally pushed through and finished listening to an item I had put on TFeed in mid-February: This conversation (between two jews) will change how you understand misogyny. Several times over the past months I had stopped listening, in disgust, after only a few minutes. It is that bad. I can’t even recall why I thought it was worth putting on my feed in the first place, other than the general notion of listening in on enemy conversations.

Ezra Klein and Kate Manne talk for two hours and 15 minutes. They spend the first 50-60 minutes beating around the bush – speaking in platitudes and generalities, and in feminized academic jargon so thick that it’s hardly possible to see any point to what they’re saying. What makes it worse, especially in this first part, is how all the while they’re heaping praise on each other for their supposed bold insight and explication.

I want this hour of my life back, and I apologize for subjecting other listeners to it. If you haven’t listened yet you can skip it and lose nothing.

In the second hour the two jews loosen up and speak more plainly. At this point it becomes clear that what they are really talking about, and the cause for their mutual admiration, is not about sex or gender but about race. They share a loathing and resentment not toward men in general, but specifically toward White men for being White.

The last 15 minutes are the best. Having revealed the subtext of Manne’s book and this discussion as an extension of the broader long-running Freud/Authoritarian Personality shtick – to psychopathologize White men, to convince us to further lower our defenses – the two jews finally feel comfortable enough to confide that the driving force, their central concern, has everything to do with their jewness and their congenital anxiety about soap and lampshades.

By the by we learn Klein’s debate with tribemate Sam Harris still dogs him. That conversation was shorter and more worth listening to on the whole. Two anti-White jews, dissimulating as “white guys”, debating what take on race is best for the jews. Harris plays the “race realist”, Klein the anti-“racist”. As with Klein’s conversation with Manne, the crucial fact that both participants are jews, and hyperconscious of it, doesn’t come out until after an elaborate song and dance.

Klein’s toxic jewing first came to my attention ten years ago, during the Journolist scandal.