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Phase I: A number of outspoken, incensed jews, dismayed at the arrest of Roman Polanski, spring to his defense peddling patently lame arguments. Their op-eds as well as hard news accounts emphasize Polanski’s status as a holocaust survivor. His crime and flight are minimized. It’s “ancient history”. The expense too great. “We demand the immediate release…”

Phases II: The rest of us call bullshit.

Phase III: Amidst this backlash some start to ask, “what’s going on here?”

Some follow up on Phase I’s notorious Applebaum: Telling the Whole Truth Now Would Be Too Confusing.

Phase II continues to manifest anywhere the Polanski apologists and equivocators offer an open forum.

Examples of Phase III were rare, at least at first.

Patrick at Popehat wonders why Feminist Majority Foundation chair, film producer Peg Yorkin, advocates forgiveness for Roman Polanski where once she advocated genital torture for rape:

One of the most interesting aspects of the Roman Polanski arrest, which my co-blogger Ken has covered in all its sordid glory, is the split that it creates. Chris, who frequently comments here, described Polanski as an “OJ Simpson for the elites,” and that’s not too far off the mark.

Popehat links an LAT piece which asks, In Roman Polanski case, is it Hollywood vs. Middle America?:

In an opinion piece in London’s the Independent, Weinstein Co. co-founder Harvey Weinstein, who is circulating the pro-Polanski petition, wrote: “Whatever you think about the so-called crime, Polanski has served his time. A deal was made with the judge, and the deal is not being honored. . . . This is the government of the United States not giving its word and recanting on a deal, and it is the government acting irresponsibly and criminally.”

In an interview, Weinstein said that people generally misunderstand what happened to Polanski at sentencing. He’s not convinced public opinion is running against the filmmaker and dismisses the categorization of Hollywood as amoral. “Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion,” Weinstein said.

“You misunderstand. I’ll tell you how to see it. Hollywood is your moral compass.”

Some of the industry’s most prominent women said they believe Polanski, who faces a sentence as low as probation and as high as 16 months in prison for pleading guilty to having sex with a minor, should be freed. “My personal thoughts are let the guy go,” said Peg Yorkin, founder of the Feminist Majority Foundation. “It’s bad a person was raped. But that was so many years ago. The guy has been through so much in his life. It’s crazy to arrest him now. Let it go. The government could spend its money on other things.”

See Popehat’s detailing of Yorkin’s stand on non-Polanski rape.

In The Roman Polanski Case: Once Again, It’s Hollywood vs. America Kevin MacDonald notes that Hollywood fundamentally reflects jewish attitudes on culture.

Here’s a helping of emergency opinion-shaping, courtesy of the New York Times, under the friendly title The Polanski Uproar. It’s presented on the “Room for Debate Blog”, which leaves no room for debate, at least not via any comment mechanism.

The Consequences of Fame:

Jonathan Rosenbaum, a former film critic for The Chicago Reader, is the author of the forthcoming “Goodbye Cinema, Hello Cinephilia” and writes at jonathanrosenbaum.com.

I’m not at all in favor of giving artists free passes when it comes to their personal morality. But in the case of Roman Polanski, anyone who’s bothered to follow the history of his case in any detail is likely to conclude that (a) he’s already paid a great deal for his crime, (b) the interests of journalism and the entertainment industry in this matter usually have a lot more to do with puritanical hysteria and exploitation than any impartial pursuit of justice.

Considering the many crooks who continue to go unpunished (including Wall Street tycoons, prominent politicians, war profiteers, torturers of innocent people, and racist hatemongers) — most of whom continue to be rewarded and validated by the same press and the same self-righteous “moralists” who are now calling for Polanski’s head — it seems hypocritical to express so much outrage and bloodlust against Polanski at this point.

So Rosenbaum gives Polanski a free pass in order to stick it to “puritanical hysteria”.

Rosenbaum’s paragraphs above, by the way, are intended to expand on his pithier, contemporaneous reaction, On the Arrest of Roman Polanski:

American lynch mobs never die; they only become more self-righteous about their savagery.

The sentiment here is similar to Auster’s title, America’s vendetta against Roman Polanski. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. What’s telling is that both men expressed these hostile attitudes towards Americans/America before the broad backlash had materialized. They were not reacting to the millions of online comments supporting Polanski’s arrest, they were reacting to news of his arrest, sharing their cynical view of the justice system and/or their alienation from what they perceive to be American/America’s values.

Multiple Views From France:

Judith Surkis is associate professor of history and literature at Harvard University. She is currently writing a book on the history of sexual scandal in France.

The “Affaire Polanski” seems to fit comfortably into well-worn media scripts on both sides of the Atlantic. French journalists, intellectuals, and politicians often depict the United States as simultaneously prone to ‘Puritanical’ sexual morality and overt anti-intellectualism. Americans, by contrast, alternately romanticize and repudiate the French as libertine elitists.

In the 1980s, the American culture wars targeted artists such as Robert Mapplethorpe and Andres Serrano for their “indecent” and sexually explicit images. In France, by contrast, to “shock the public” (épater le bourgeois) is a cherished, and at this point almost staid, national tradition going back to Baudelaire and Flaubert.

The well-worn script is that this is an American/French clash. The truth is that the judaized elites have more in common with each other than they do with the ordinary people in the countries they want to jacuzzi in or abscond to. They make that clear every time they bemoan the “puritanical” morality of the “flyover country” they happen to be flying over. Could there any clearer illustration of this than the jet-setting he’s-a-jew, now he’s-a-Pole, now he’s-a-Frenchman games Polanski’s advocates play?

Mapplethorpe and Serrano are not innocent victims any more than Polanski is. Kevin MacDonald points to the predominance of wealthy jews among art collectors, critics, and gallery owners, and how they promote extreme expressive individualists like Mapplethorpe and Serrano. The part artists like this play in the “culture war” is comparable to the part bombs play in a shooting war. The victims here are the public. Our taxes subsidize these art collectors, critics, gallery owners, and extreme expressive individualists, to produce a load of shocking crap most of us don’t want.

Vadim Rizov complains about Eight offensive quotes on the Polanski situation, four “prosecution” and four “defense”.

The four “defense” quotes come from three jews and a quasi-jew – Shore, Winger, Weinstein, and Goldberg.

Two quotes Rizov labels “prosecution” were not really viewed that way by their readers. These were Richard Cohen and Roger L. Simon. Both are jewish. A third (weak) “prosecution” quote comes from Andrew Klavan, who is jewish.

Rizov’s fourth “prosecution” quote comes from Wendy Murphy, who glosses over the details of Polanski’s depravity on television. What really offends Rizov is:

A few sentences later, she notes that abroad, Polanski was “hanging around on the Left Bank,” which kind of gives the game away; Murphy, a noted Bill O’Reilly compatriot, knows how to tie in her undeniably sincere rape-victim advocacy to a broader culture war.

In other words, Rizov is offended because Murphy revealed something that reflects badly on israel.

Because really, why does it matter if he was on the Left Bank or in a Trappist monastery?

Because really, he was actually on the Left Bank and never in a Trappist monastery.

So, to take stock of this, seven of Rizov’s eight offensive quotes came from jews, and the eighth was judged offensive because it “gives the game away”, by alluding to Polanski’s jewishness.

The most bizarre reaction to the backlash has been from Lawrence Auster. As I noted in The Outrageous Defense of Roman Polanski, Auster was initially not only supportive of Polanski, he was “stunned” and “appalled” that “with the connivance of U.S. authorities” poor Polanski was “tricked into being arrested”. He summarized his view by titling it America’s vendetta against Roman Polanski.

Several readers provided Auster with some actual facts of the case. At first he insulted them, and stubbornly stood his ground. Finally he admitted, “I do not know the details of the crime”, “I didn’t know about these specifics until now”, “Again, I was not aware until today of the extent of what he did to the girl.” In other words, he took a position, expressed with deep emotion, stuck with it despite being presented with the facts, and only then admitted he didn’t actually know what he was talking about. Eventually he even wrote: “So I take back what I said earlier.”

For this several sycophants praised him, and we know this because he duly copied and pasted that praise into his blog.

Unfortunately, nobody ever pointed out the most important thing he got wrong, which is was what Polanski is actually in trouble for, which is contempt of court. It turns out that every time some verbally-skilled, ethically-challenged Polanski-phile bemoans the 32 years that have passed, thinking it somehow diminishes the rape, they’re actually unwittingly highlighting the seriousness of the crime he’s not yet answered for: skipping his date with the court for 32 years.

But don’t expect any of them to ever acknowledge that.

Auster wasn’t specific about what he was taking back. But at some point he silently changed the post’s title to “The arrest of Roman Polanski”. He never got around to justifying “America’s vendetta”, and none of his readers questioned him on it. At least none that got past his copy and paste.

Soon after Auster changed his position, he described

the anti-Semitic theory of Lawrence Auster, which says that none of my positions are what they seem, that every position I take is “really” motivated by my agenda to advance the Jews over gentile whites

Then he confirmed the theory.

My initial position in this thread, of protesting the arrest of Polanski because 32 years had passed since his crime, was not taken by me for the reasons I gave, but for a hidden reason of defending any Jewish person because he’s Jewish. Everything else I say, all my arguments, is a front for that.

I’ve previously described Auster’s tendency to say telling things couched in false irony in “Fruitloopable Presumption”. I’m pleased to see him do it again. What set him off this time is The Last Moral Frontier. You can find further discussion of his odd antics there.

Polanski Polarization

What a difference a day makes. I underestimated the relevance of this story when it first broke, then miscalculated the direction it would break.

Last night at this hour the most self-righteous Polanski defenders were still waxing hyperbolic, issuing demands, acting as if by sticking Polanski’s jewishness in everyone’s face they could ride roughshod over the few neutral, factual articles and negative op-eds. The elites were coming to the consensus that Polanski was the victim, and the ethnic-ethical divide was almost exclusively constrained to the disgusted comments of a million faceless nobodies.

Since then a few new Polanski defenders have come forward, but the overall tone has completely reversed. Some celebrities have questioned the defense. With the nobodies clearly and overwhelmingly against Polanski the elites have already begun trying to defuse the anger. Some of his early defenders are retreating from their previous positions.

A few zealous jews haven’t yet gotten the memo. Roman Polanski: backlash as Whoopi Goldberg says director didn’t commit ‘rape-rape’ – Telegraph:

Goldberg, star of The Color Purple and Sister Act, said: “I know it wasn’t rape-rape. I think it was something else, but I don’t believe it was rape-rape.

One celebrity supporter, the actress Debra Winger, said it was a “three-decades-old case that is dead but for minor technicalities. We stand by him and await his release and his next masterpiece.” Movie mogul Harvey Weinstein said Polanski was a “humanist” who had been the victim of a “miscarriage of justice”. He said: “We will have to speak to our leaders, particularly in California. I’m not too shy to go and talk to the Governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and to ask him once and for all to look at this.”

That’s curious. Weinstein thinks the governor of California answers to him.

However, the views of the Hollywood elite seemed out of step with those of ordinary Americans and they now face a backlash.

On the Los Angeles Times website only one in 30 comments from members of the public supported Polanski and most called for him to face justice.

Recall that bizarre piece that tried to paint the White/jewish culture war as an American/French or American/European conflict, Roman Polanski’s Arrest: Why the French Are Outraged – TIME? They can file that one under oooooops. Roman’s long, outrageous European holiday: For years, elites embraced child rapist Polanski, by James Kirchick, September 30th 2009:

For evidence of the widening cultural gulf between average people and the transnational cosmopolitan elite, look no further than reactions to the recent, and long overdue, arrest of Roman Polanski.

Fortunately, the degradation of the European intellectual and political class does not seem to be trickling down to the masses. In an online poll conducted by the French newspaper Le Figaro, more than 70% of the 30,000 participants voted in favor of Polanski’s deportation to the United States, as did most of the 400 people who wrote letters to the magazine Le Point.

Keep in mind, however, that the supposed rage of the European masses was not stirred until his arrest last week, which inevitably brought forth a lurid rehashing of the original charges. Never before was there a popular movement among ordinary Europeans to have Polanski sent back to the U.S. in leg irons.

French support softens for Polanski, Hollywood divided | Entertainment | People | Reuters:

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters in New York that Polanski’s extradition from Switzerland to California to face sentencing on the 1977 sex crime charge was a matter for judges, not diplomats, to handle.

But support in Europe and Hollywood appears to be eroding. Along with the French government’s new focus on strictly legal matters, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk on Tuesday said that while Polanski should be offered consular help, ministers need not get involved in the extradition battle.

Translation: all political manuevering to pardon/spring/free Polanski has now officially moved behind the scenes, away from public view.

Kirstie Alley on Roman Polanski: Don’t Celebrate or Defend Him, Hollywood! – E! Online. Alley gets as unhinged as a Polanski defender, against Polanski and his defenders.

Twitter / Jewel: Polanski-admitted raping …:

Polanski-admitted raping a 13 yr old-whys every1 in the arts upset hes facing jail? cause hes a gifted director? what am i missing?

This is a good indication Jewel Kilcher is not jewish. Only Whites can be so naive.

Next up, malpractice suit? Director Roman Polanski’s boastful lawyer triggered arrest: report:

In paperwork filed as part of his bid to get 31-year-old rape charges dropped, Polanski’s lawyers said the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office wasn’t really trying to hunt him down.

Bad move.

The Los Angeles Times reported that this claim “caught the eye” of prosecutors and prompted them to plot an end to Polanski’s three decades as a fugitive.

But the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office contends it has been trying to nab the filmmaker since he fled 30 years ago – including once in Israel as recently as 2007.

Prosecutors released a list Monday detailing their efforts to nab the director since 1978. They sought arrest warrants for Polanski in England, Thailand and France, they said.

Here’s Patrick Goldstein climbing down. Sort of. Those angry town-hall Whites (AKA “Glenn Becks”) are still to blame. Hollywood liberals under fire: The Polanski debate gets political | The Big Picture | Los Angeles Times:

It was surely only a matter of time. The noisy partisan divide that seems to infect everything in America today — from what health care plan you want to what car you drive — has surfaced again. As soon as commentators started weighing in on Roman Polanski’s arrest over the weekend in Switzerland, the debate over whether the filmmaker should be made to stand trial in Los Angeles for his 1977 rape of a 13-year-old girl quickly turned into a series of shouting-match-style denunciations, with conservatives casting Polanski defenders as despicable, soft-headed liberals.

I know because I’ve been reading my mail, which has been running about 100-to-1 against Polanski. And since I wrote a column that most people interpreted as a defense of Polanski, the mail was also running 100-to-1 against me.

We live in an age where everyone is angry about everything. But I was taken aback by how many letters viewed the Polanski issue through a political prism — if you weren’t full of outrage over his crime and subsequent flight from prosecution, then you were a yellow-bellied lefty, always willing to come up with some new excuse for the loathsome behavior of the chic Hollywood elite.

So once again, we have a right-versus-left divide, with Hollywood, teeming as it is with Prius-driving liberals, being easily tossed into the lefty camp. To hear conservatives tell it, Polanski represents the classic example of the decadent artist who gets a free pass from liberals, the same liberals who’d be the first to express outrage against greedy Wall Street predators or Catholic priests accused of pedophilia.

He skipped town, sensing, as most people involved with the case have since concluded, that the judge had his own agenda and was going to bring the hammer down on him. But worrying about judicial fairness when it comes to a sexual predator would inject a layer of complexity into this affair that most people don’t want to hear. Call it justice or call it vengeance, but people are town-hall-style angry that Polanski got off scott free, just as they are mad at the bankers on Wall Street who got bailed out — after socking away millions in profit — while regular folks got the shaft.

Commenters, once again, try to set Goldstein straight.

If your inbox is running 100-1 against Polanski then it’s not a liberal conservative divide. It’s a few Hollywood types who are comfortable letting him off since it wasn’t “rape-rape.”

Posted by: Tina | September 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM

This article confuses me. You are polarizing conservatives and liberals. I’m as liberal as they can get. I vote and donate to liberal causes, liberal politicians, environmental causes, etc..
There are a lot of liberals that I know, like me, who don’t support the Polanski camp.

I think that when Polanski decided to rape a 13 yr old child – and sodomize her, he was absolutely wrong – there is no gray zone here. He was also wrong to flee his sentencing – and from what I have read – the Judge wanted to sentence him to an additional 48 days of prison… only 48 days… and that is why he fled the country. His lawyers wanted to have time served from his incarceration for psychiatric evaluation and the judge said no. Unlike a lot of other people, I actually read through the scanned transcript of that trial that is now publicly available on the web. What he did was horrific. period.

And no I don’t think he has suffered already – he lives a lavish and free life. And to argue that he should never have gone to jail because he had horrible experiences in his life is a strange argument. Most of the people in our jails now had horrible upbringings and witnessed horrible crimes throughout their lives, yet no one is fighting to set all of them free.

Let’s take a simpler and less morally challenging case – the artist is drunk driving and kills someone – shouldn’t he be prosecuted the same as any other DWI case?

Sincerely, left-wing knee jerk liberal – who thinks raping children is wrong.

Posted by: Kim | September 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM

The main basis of the defense isn’t liberal, or elite liberal, or Hollywood liberal. It’s jewish.

Here’s Anne Applebaum climbing down. Sort of. And much like Goldstein, it’s done by first calling attention to the insulting feedback. Then she claims she didn’t mention her conflict of interest because she didn’t know there was one. We’re to believe she wasn’t in contact with her husband (I guess because being on different continents keeps phones from working) and didn’t read any of the reports concerning his actions on Polanski’s behalf. There’s nothing worth excerpting from Applebaum’s portion of PostPartisan – Reaction to Roman Polanski. But this reader’s reaction is worth quoting and answering:

Ms. Applebaum,

I posted the link to wikipedia which stated your relationship with the polish foreign minister, whom I identified as Polish Ambassdor. I do not work for any DA or any government. Your defense of Mr. Polanski rings just as hollow as the people who defend or defended OJ Simpson. Mr. Polanksi is a deviant and a criminal. Because of his fame he was able to hide in Europe.

Posted by: nikhil22 | September 29, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Polanski is a jewish OJ. He quite neatly polarizes Whites and jews. Jews view him as a victim, wronged and hunted by a cruel, puritanical system. Whites see him as a pervert who has escaped justice.

OJ was famous and tried to run. Martha Stewart was famous and didn’t run. Polanski ran but didn’t hide. His fame and ego made that impossible. What enabled him to remain at large was the special deference any jew enjoys, but especially a “holocaust survivor” in Europe. That’s why all the early defenses so bluntly played that card.

The Outrageous Defense of Roman Polanski

When news of jewish director Roman Polanski’s arrest broke two days ago I excerpted the following details from an early article, Festival says director Polanski in Swiss custody – Yahoo! News (* – see endnote):

A native of France who was taken to Poland by his parents, Polanski escaped Krakow’s Jewish ghetto as a child and lived off the charity of strangers. His mother died at the Auschwitz Nazi death camp.

In 1977, he was accused of raping a teenager while photographing her during a modeling session. The girl said Polanski plied her with champagne and part of a Quaalude pill at Jack Nicholson’s house while the actor was away. She said that, despite her protests, he performed oral sex, intercourse and sodomy on her.

Polanski was allowed to plead guilty to one of six charges, unlawful sexual intercourse, and was sent to prison for 42 days of evaluation.

Lawyers agreed that would be his full sentence, but the judge tried to renege on the plea bargain. Aware the judge would sentence him to more prison time and require his voluntary deportation, Polanski fled to France.

Note that AP didn’t provide the details of the crime whose consequences Polanski has been running from for 32 years until after they made it clear he is a jew, and a special class of jew at that.

Why do people react to Roman Polanski the way they do? The answer is clear to anyone who won’t avert their eyes from the rise of jewish power over the past 65+ years, or to the series of symptoms that rise has produced. In much the same way a cross-section of rock tells a geologist something of history, the sordid, decades-long Roman Polanski saga tells us something of the “culture war” between Whites and jews. In this case the clash is between the Rule of Law and “what’s good for jews”. In fact it’s worse. What’s good for one criminal jew apparently outweighs the Rule of Law.

Polanski polarizes Whites and jews in much the same way OJ Simpson polarizes Whites and blacks. Whether or not Whites see him as a jewish OJ, jews do. Polanski’s defenders don’t hesitate to play up his jewishness, which despite their tales of woe is definitely not one of his liabilities. If anything it helps explain how he’s been able to remain at large for so long. Don’t expect any mainstream detractors to touch this aspect of the story. Who wants to tiptoe through that minefield? Most probably think there’s no need, the scandalous nature of Polanski’s crime will be enough to see justice done. Though for 32 years it hasn’t, and from the bits I cite below it seems instead that powerful forces are doing their best to let him walk. Months after the spotlight has moved on the ambitious but naive lawmen in LA and Switzerland who pushed this will be quietly informed that their services are no longer required. That’s not so much a prediction as it is an educated guess.

Let’s begin with Lawrence Auster, a convert to Christianity of “jewish heritage” who styles himself a traditionalist conservative. He made his view on Polanski clear in America’s vendetta against Roman Polanski, which I’m going to reproduce in full because he’s pulled or altered posts in the past (the emphasis, here and below, is mine):

I was stunned to read in Monday’s paper that Roman Polanski, 76 years old, was, with the connivance of U.S. authorities, tricked into being arrested in Switzerland for the 32 year old offense of raping a 13 year old girl, so that he could be returned to the U.S. for trial. Who ever heard of a crime–other than murder–being pursued over so many years? I thought all crimes–other than murder–have a statute of limitations.

This is appalling. What is America now–the Javert Nation?

Anne Applebaum writes about it in the Washington Post.

– end of initial entry –

Christopher C. writes:

Shocked at your post.

The best response I’ve seen so far is from the comment thread on that lawyer’s gossip site, Above the Law, which just so happens to catch the ignorance, tone, and spirit of your post:

Comment # 20:

“The crime is pretty darn old–from 32 years ago. Isn’t it time to give it a rest?”

Totally. It had only been 15 years when they caught Adolf Eichmann in Argentina–but 32 is a lot longer!

“His victim takes a fairly forgiving attitude towards Polanski.”

Then she can forgo a civil lawsuit. (Also, lots of victims of domestic abuse “forgive” their abuser–so I guess we shouldn’t prosecute those, either.)

“Polanski claims that ‘there was no premeditation and that ‘it was something that just happened.'”

I “just happened” to swipe a twenty-dollar bill off my co-worker’s desk. So it’s not theft!

“Doesn’t the government have better things to do?”

Than enforce laws?

“Questions have been raised regarding the propriety of the original prosecution.”

If only there were means in the legal system to challenge the propriety of the prosecution–aside from direct appeals, two additional layers of habeas challenges (state and federal), and requests for executive clemency or commutation.

But no, seriously, he should get to stay in France and eat wine and cheese and make movies.

LA replies:

The comment which you think is so spot on is filled with inanities. Someone who can’t discuss the Polanski case without comparing Polanski to Adolf Eichmann is the very definition of an intellectual mediocrity. I’m shocked that you would consider this an apropos point.

In New York State until three years ago there was a five year statute of limitations on rape. Then it was removed.

In California as of 2007 and presumably still today has a 10 year statute of limitations on rape. How then can Polanski be pursued? I suppose it’s because statute of limitations refers to the amount of time between the commission of the crime and the indictment. Polanski had already been arrested and charged and was in the middle of his trial when he fled, because he feared that a deal that had been made whereby he wouldn’t serve jail time had been abrogated. So (I’m assuming) the statute of limitations is irrelevant here.

Still, 32 years have passed. He committed one offense. He’s lived half his life in exile. He’s 76 years old. To keep pursuing him like this is sick. I don’t think that this pursuit is an expression of justice. I think it’s an expression of the power of feminism.

Jonathan W. writes:

You are correct that the statute of limitations is inapplicable here. Since Polanski had already pled guilty, which is equivalent to a conviction, the statute of limitations doesn’t apply. Also, in many jurisdictions (although I am unsure about California specifically), intentionally fleeing the jurisdiction tolls the statute until the fugitive returns to the jurisdiction where the crime was committed.

September 29

Charles T. writes:

I had to read the initial post twice. I could not believe you were posting this. This is the first very serious disagreement I have had with your postings. Polanski is the sick one here. I recently read the victim’s very detailed story of what happened–I regret I cannot find it at this point. It is a gut wrenching tale of serious mistakes made by her parents and of Polanski’s predatory behavior and actions towards her. The story makes clear this was not something that just happened–it plays out over several days time. This little girl was his prey.

No mercy for Polanski. He is a predator. Rape is an incredibly serious crime–and Polanski should pay for it.

LA replies:

I do not know the details of the crime, I’ve read a few stories in the last couple of days. I did read, I think in the NY Post, that there was an agreement in which Polanski understood he would not face jail time, but then the case was given to a different judge who would give jail time, and that was when Polanski fled the country. Now if there was an agreement that involved no jail time, the crime itself could not have been of the gravest nature, certainly not of a nature that he should still be pursued across the world 32 years later. My response to this is based purely on the amount of time that has elapsed. 32 years! Isn’t there a point when you say, let it go?

Other than in cases of murder, and of Nazi crimes against humanity, I’ve never heard of a person being pursued and arrested for a crime 32 years later.

David B. writes:

There is a brief account of the Polanski case in a book I have titled, “The D.A.” It is about the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office, published in 1996.

After the grand jury indictment, the girl’s mother decided she did not want her daughter subjected to a trial. She hired a politically influential attorney who talked to the district attorney. An offer was made to Polanski to plead guilty to statutory rape, with the heavier counts dismissed, and the sentence is “open,” which means left to the judge to decide.

The prosecutor wanted to go to trial, but the “front office” negotiated a plea bargain. Polanski accepted the offer and plead guilty to felony statutory rape. On the day before sentencing, Polanski fled the country for France. He has not returned.

My view is that Polanski should be brought back for the case to be dealt with. I don’t think Polanski will receive much, if any, prison time.

LA replies:

So the charge for which he’s wanted to statutory rape. Do you pursue a man for 32 years across the ocean for statutory rape?

My attention is immediately drawn to Auster’s hysterical tone. “America’s vendetta”, “stunned”, “the connivance of U.S. authorities, tricked into being arrested”, “appalling”, “pursue a man for 32 years across the ocean”. What justifies this strong reaction, in support of a criminal, especially when he is ignorant of the details of the crime? I daresay not traditionalism or Christianity.

As I’ve pointed out before, Auster is a dissimulator. Whatever else he pretends to care about he’s first and foremost pro-jew. Most of the time he’s strenuously defending America, because he thinks that’s best for jews. Here he’s on the attack, because somebody has to protect jewish rapists from being tricked by those conniving Americans.

Auster can be an incredible fruitloop, simultaneously fascinating and repugnant. As we’re about to see, he links approvingly to Applebaum, who plays the Nazi card. Then he calls drawing a direct analogy to Adolf Eichmann “the very definition of an intellectual mediocrity”. I’ve wasted more than enough of my life picking him apart. I’ll cut it short here and simply follow two links from his post.

PostPartisan – The Outrageous Arrest of Roman Polanski, by Anne Applebaum, September 27, 2009:

Of all nations, why was it Switzerland — the country that traditionally guarded the secret bank accounts of international criminals and corrupt dictators — that finally decided to arrest Roman Polanski? There must be some deeper story here, because by any reckoning the decision was bizarre — though not nearly as bizarre as the fact that a U.S. judge wants to keep pursuing this case after so many decades.

Here are some of the facts: Polanski’s crime — statutory rape of a 13-year-old girl — was committed in 1977. The girl, now 45, has said more than once that she forgives him, that she can live with the memory, that she does not want him to be put back in court or in jail, and that a new trial will hurt her husband and children. There is evidence of judicial misconduct in the original trial. There is evidence that Polanski did not know her real age. Polanski, who panicked and fled the U.S. during that trial, has been pursued by this case for 30 years, during which time he has never returned to America, has never returned to the United Kingdom., has avoided many other countries, and has never been convicted of anything else. He did commit a crime, but he has paid for the crime in many, many ways: In notoriety, in lawyers’ fees, in professional stigma. He could not return to Los Angeles to receive his recent Oscar. He cannot visit Hollywood to direct or cast a film.

He can be blamed, it is true, for his original, panicky decision to flee. But for this decision I see mitigating circumstances, not least an understandable fear of irrational punishment. Polanski’s mother died in Auschwitz. His father survived Mauthausen. He himself survived the Krakow ghetto, and later emigrated from communist Poland. His pregnant wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered in 1969 by the followers of Charles Manson, though for a time Polanski himself was a suspect.

I am certain there are many who will harrumph that, following this arrest, justice was done at last. But Polanski is 76. To put him on trial or keep him in jail does not serve society in general or his victim in particular. Nor does it prove the doggedness and earnestness of the American legal system. If he weren’t famous, I bet no one would bother with him at all.

If he weren’t jewish, I bet so many jews wouldn’t be displaying their intellectual mediocrity in his defense.

Applebaum’s facts are carefully selected. Here in compact, distilled form she presents almost all of the arguments and hyperbole being offered in every other Polanski defense. It is a veritable masterpiece of bullshit. This must be one reason she was on The Atlantic 50 list of “columnists and bloggers and broadcast pundits who shape the national debates”.

Unfortunately, most of what Applebaum writes is an appeal to emotions, not reason or the law. She doesn’t even get some of her facts right. Consider the following link to Above the Law, mentioned by Christopher C above. Beside the portion Auster quoted, which pulls the pants on most of the Polanski defenses, we find this nugget in The Roman Polanski Prosecution: Keep On Keeping On, or Drop It Like It’s Hot?:

Wow, I just read the GJ testimony of the victim: Disgusting. While he was raping her, he asked if she was on the pill. When she said no, he asked when she had last had her period. When she said a couple of weeks, he switched to sodomizing her so he could come in her ass.

And that stuff about not knowing she was a minor: BS. Shortly before the raping in earnest starts, he actually talks to the girls mother on the phone to reassure her that everything’s all right but that they’ll be home a little late.

The comments are more interesting than the post itself. It’s been all but expunged from the mainstream media, and even on the internet it often takes cryptic forms, but the “culture war” rages on. Two more Above the Law comments offer more recurring defense themes:

Misallocation of scarce governmental resources. Statutory rape is not an enforcement priority.

I second the suggestion to see the film Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired…
(http://theenvelope.latimes.com/movies/filmfestivals/sundance2008/env-et-polanski17jan17,0,4818835.story)

If that documentary is to be believed, and I think it was very credible, the whole case was corrupt – particularly the scumbag judge – and Polanski fled because he was being railroaded and lied to and knew he couldn’t get real justice – he was willing to plead guilty and take the punishment THE JUDGE AGREED TO – but the judge reneged and was posing and posturing to get celebrity attention and use Polanski’s celebrity – I am not defending his actions but the man has had a LOT of terrible things in his life and has contributed a LOT to the world – and even the “victim” is done with his “crime”

Enough is enough. Let’s all get a life and leave the man alone

Enough is enough. The judge (who’s dead and can’t defend himself) is a corrupt scumbag, Polanski a victim. Can’t we all just get along? If it doesn’t fit you must acquit. Let my people go.

Here’s another one-sided jewish kitchen-sink defense, largely overlapping Auster and Applebaum – holocaust, Javert, Tate and Manson, victim forgives him, see Wanted and Desired, … Roman Polanski still being hounded by L.A. County prosecutors | The Big Picture | Los Angeles Times, by Patrick Goldstein, September 27, 2009:

But at a time when California is shredding the safety net that protects the poor and the unemployed, not to mention the budget of the public school system, you’d hope that L.A. County prosecutors had better things to do than cause an international furor by hounding a film director for a 32-year-old sex crime, especially one that Polanski’s victim wants to put behind her.

In the coming weeks, the Polanski affair will no doubt become a tabloid sensation, with op-ed moralists, excitable bloggers and the Glenn Becks of the world noisily weighing in on the propriety of his possible prosecution.

Glenn Beck? What does he have to do with…oh, there’s the “culture war” again. “Glenn Becks” is oh-so-clever ew-jay ode-cay for uppity Whites. I’m mildly surprised that he kept himself from saying “rednecks” or “teabaggers”.

Did you notice that where the title says “hounded” the URL (ie. the original title) says “stalked”? That’s at least a small sign of restraint.

Here’s another outrageous defense, Joan Z. Shore: Polanski’s Arrest: Shame on the Swiss, concludes:

Now, three decades later, the long arm of Uncle Sam is grabbing this man and hauling him back to California, thanks to the complicity of the Swiss. There are surely more important issues in the world, and more villainous rogues at large that we should be attending to. Why does America always get sidetracked by sex and scandal?

I suggest, in the finest American tradition, we protest this absurd and deplorable act by smashing our cuckoo clocks, pawning our Swiss watches, and banning Swiss cheese and chocolate.

Is Shore jewish? She certainly argues like she is, appealing to the same mind-numbing nonsense, throwing in some shame and a boycott.

I’m wondering whether Applebaum, Goldstein, Shore, and other Polanski defenders have been sharing notes on JournoList? Or perhaps it’s just that they’ve all seen that same movie Bill Wyman panned in Whitewashing Roman Polanski:

In “Wanted and Desired,” Zenovich casts Polanski, whose face repeatedly fills the screen with a Byronic luminosity, as a tragic figure, a child survivor of the Holocaust haunted by the murder of his wife, the actress Sharon Tate, at the hands of the Manson family. His friends are uniformly supportive: “This is somebody who could not be a rapist!” one exclaims.

Polanski wannabes are up in arms, perceiving a clear and present danger to their libertine lifestyles. Top directors rally around Polanski – Yahoo! News, Mon Sep 28:

We demand the immediate release of Roman Polanski,” urged the petition, which was coordinated from France by the SACD, an organisation which represents performance and visual artists.

France’s Society of Film Directors also voiced concern the arrest “could have disastrous consequences for freedom of expression across the world”.

Polish film-makers called on their government to act and prevent a “judicial lynching”.

Some 100 Swiss artists and intellectuals signed a petition demanding the release of Polanski, while papers in the country lamented that a “trap” had been laid there for the director.

The film industry’s outrage was echoed by the international community with France and Poland criticising the arrest.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said he was working with his Polish counterpart Radek Sikorski to help Polanski and that they had jointly written to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to ask for the charges to be dropped.

This affair is frankly a bit sinister. Here is a man of such talent, recognized worldwide, recognised especially in the country where he was arrested. This is not nice at all,” Kouchner told France-Inter radio.

French Culture Minister Frederic Mitterrand has called the arrest of the film-maker, who lives in Paris, “absolutely horrifying”.

Look at this silly hyperbole. And all these powerful people, sworn to uphold the law, openly working to subvert it. Applebaum put it well enough, there is a deeper story here.

The list of petitioners: Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » Naming Names: The ‘Free Roman Polanski’ Petition.

Here’s a bizarre piece that tries to paint the White/jewish culture war as an American/French or American/European conflict. Roman Polanski’s Arrest: Why the French Are Outraged – TIME:

Although the cultural divide between Europe and the U.S. has narrowed over the years, the legal fate of director Roman Polanski shows there are still major differences. Polanski’s arrest in Switzerland on Sept. 26 was greeted with satisfaction in the U.S., where authorities hope he will face sentencing for having sex with a 13-year-old girl in 1977. Europeans, meanwhile, are shocked and dismayed that an internationally acclaimed artist could be jailed for such an old offense.

To see him thrown to the lions and put in prison because of ancient history — and as he was traveling to an event honoring him — is absolutely horrifying,” French Culture Minister Frédéric Mitterrand said after Polanski was arrested upon arrival in Switzerland to attend the Zurich Film Festival, where he was to receive a lifetime achievement award. “There’s an America we love and an America that scares us, and it’s that latter America that has just shown us its face.” In comments that appeared to be directed at Swiss and American authorities to free Polanski, Mitterrand added that both he and French President Nicolas Sarkozy hoped for a “rapid resolution to the situation which would allow Roman Polanski to rejoin his family as quickly as possible.”

No doubt great pressure is being exerted behind the scenes that we’re not hearing about.

If Polanski’s 32 year old conviction is “ancient history”, then why does his even more ancient Nazi-era history keep coming up? Oh. That’s right. “Culture war”.

The 76-year-old, who was born in France, has increasingly been seen as the victim of an obsessive U.S. justice system that is ready to pluck him up and drag him off to prison at any moment.

More “Wanted and Desired” fans.

“The French view Polanski as an artist and celebrity and feel he deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people, which just isn’t an option in the U.S.,” says Ted Stanger, an author and longtime resident of France who has written extensively on the differing public views and attitudes across the Atlantic. “The French in particular, and Europeans in general, don’t understand why it isn’t possible for American officials to intervene and say, ‘Hey, it’s been over 30 years and things look a little different now. Let’s just forget this thing.’ “

Things look a lot darker now.

I think we would have forgotten “this thing” if Polanski had appeared in court when he was supposed to. People accused, convicted, and imprisoned for possessing digital pictures of someone underage that they’ve never even met, and people in general, don’t understand why Polanski deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people. I’m sure more than a few can be found in Europe.

I imagine John Demjanjuk must be thinking, “Hey, it’s been over 65 years and things look a little different now. Let’s just forget this thing.” But I don’t think he has any rich and famous friends. And let’s face it, Demjanjuk is the opposite of a jew. That’s why he’s treated completely differently than Polanski.

To the French mind, this has made Polanski a combination of Oscar Wilde and Alfred Dreyfus — the victim of systematic persecution,” Stanger says. “To the American mind, he’s proof that no one is above the law.” That’s a perception gap as wide as the Atlantic.

Inspired by Patrick Goldstein, I predict that in the coming weeks the perception gap will grow, and the anti-semitism card will be played more overtly and more often. Let’s have a conversation contrasting Eichmann, and Demjanjuk, and Sheppard and Whittle with Polanski. Let’s hear more about why Polanski deserves special treatment. Let’s hear how anti-semitic it is to question this.

In the meantime, let me cite some hard facts Polanski’s defenders consistently neglect to mention.

Here is the grand jury testimony, and here is Polanski’s guilty plea.

Polanski Fights Extradition to U.S. From Switzerland (Update4) – Bloomberg.com, by Paul Verschuur, Antonio Ligi and Edvard Pettersson, September 29, 2009:

Prosecutors became aware of Polanski’s travel plans last week and through the U.S. Justice Department asked that he be arrested, Jane Robison, a spokeswoman for Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley, said today in a phone interview.

Extraditing Polanski could take several months, Robison said. The request for Polanski’s arrest wasn’t related to his failed attempt this year to have the 1977 case thrown out, she said.

“It’s because he’s been a fugitive,” Robison said.

No Statute of Limitations for Polanski – The Early Show – CBS News, Sept. 28, 2009:

There is no statute of limitations governing the case of Roman Polanski who was arrested by Swiss police on Saturday on a 31-year-old arrest warrant.

CBS News legal analyst Lisa Bloom said that is because the director, now 76, had already pleaded guilty in 1978 to having had unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl. “He already has been convicted.”

Polanski fled the U.S. as he awaiting sentencing, convinced the judge would renege on his plea bargain deal. A judicial review this year did find there was misconduct on the part of the judge (who is now dead), but the charges could not be set aside as long as Polanski was a fugitive.

Fearing renewed attention, Polanski’s victim, [Samantha Geimer,] who accepted a cash settlement from him, has said she does not want the case reopened.

“This is a crime against the people of the State of California, as all crimes [there] are,” she said. “And so a civil settlement does not end it. This is a man who fled on the eve of sentencing because he was concerned he was going to get a harsher sentence than he expected under the plea bargain. He’s been a fugitive for 30 years. He still faces sentencing here in California. It’s irrelevant legally that he has a civil settlement with the complaining witness.”

Why would anyone who knows enough about the case to mention that the victim had forgiven Polanski not also mention that he had paid her? I’m guessing it’s the same reason they’d describe Polanski as having been “stalked” or “hounded” or “pursued across the ocean” when he has never even taken the trouble to hide.

Here’s a critique of “The Global Committee to Defend Roman Polanski”, Roman Polanski is Not a Victim – Swampland – TIME.com, by Amy Sullivan Monday, September 28, 2009. It concludes by responding to the Dreyfus comment highlighted above:

Except that Wilde was persecuted for being gay and Dreyfus was persecuted for being Jewish. In the western world, at least, it’s no longer acceptable to target someone for his sexual orientation or his religious faith. In 2009, just as it was in 1977, however, it is still considered a bad thing to rape a child. And so it will be 30 years from now and 60 years from now. At least, I dearly hope so.

Except that this doesn’t squarely face the reality here. This isn’t about sex or religion. When Mr. Roman Catholic is accused of homosexual pederasty jews are just as eager to condemn as they are here to defend Mr. Roman Polanski. The reality is that a bunch of mostly self-righteous secular jews are upset that a fellow jew, who just happens to be a convicted criminal, has been arrested. They know anti-semitism when they smell it. They can’t see why else a brilliant jew who drugs and anally rapes a 13-year old girl needs to be held to account. I sympathize with Sullivan. She very likely understands this, as well as the consequences of speaking frankly about it. A gentile can’t write directly about the White/jew “culture war” and keep a mainstream media job.

Among the comments to Sullivan’s brief article is this one:

Everyone outraged by Applebaum should simply email WaPo about her failure to disclose her conflict of interest. Her husband has worked to free Polanski of this charge.

spob September 28, 2009 at 6:08 pm

Sure enough, see Patterico’s Pontifications » WaPo Columnist Has Undisclosed Conflict of Interest on Roman Polanski Matter. Applebaum doesn’t need to worry about her job. I don’t think she’ll even bother to come clean about the conflict of interest. Because what are “the anti-semites” going to do about it?

More signs of the “culture war”: Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » HuffPo Goes All In to Defend Polanski, Readers Revolt and Wikipedia locks Polanski page after editing war – Yahoo! News.

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* – There is something strange about the AP-Yahoo article, Festival says director Polanski in Swiss custody – Yahoo! News, linked above. When I first read it the article was more or less identical to this one at Breitbart. Today however the same URL produces a heavily modified version whose tone is different and which has been retitled “Polanski’s arrest could be his path to freedom”. In the new version Polanski’s ghetto history is introduced more subtly (as if to explain what a French minister said the day after the story broke) rather than just being baldly injected into the story as it was in the original (as visible in the Breitbart version). It was only upon writing this essay that I noticed the change and searched out the original. Besides the Breitbart version that search revealed another fishy Yahoo link: http://omg.yahoo.com/news/festival-says-director-polanski-in-swiss-custody/28577. This URL redirects to the new “path to freedom” story. For the moment this journalistic irregularity is still visible in google’s cache. Note the timestamps on the cache and the “path to freedom” page.

Maybe this kind of change happens more often than I’m aware, but I’ve excerpted many web-based articles and have only noticed changes like this a few times. On its own I don’t think it’s a big deal, though it does make me wonder. What was so wrong with the original article that justified it being replaced/redirected?

Lists

In “The Atlantic 50:” Pundit demographics Sailer writes:

The Atlantic Monthly has put together a list it calls The Atlantic 50, which it describes as “the columnists and bloggers and broadcast pundits who shape the national debates:”

Rather than debate who is on the list, I’m going to use this list to answer a question I’ve been wondering about. Like Francis Galton in the 1860s, I like to take other people’s lists made for their own purposes and use them to answer my own questions, such as: What are the demographics of opinion-molders?

In Sailer’s estimation 50% of the pundits are jewish, while only 46% are White (96% “white” – 50% jewish), and 43% are Christian (23% Catholic + 20% Protestant). In response there were a few mentions of the jewish disproportion, the following two being the most negative:

Anonymous said…

Jewish 23.75 50%

Komment Kontrol will never allow me to say this, but there’s an element of self-fulfilling prophecy here – something along the lines of, “We write 50% of the commentary in this nation if and only if we declare that we write 50% of the commentary in this nation.”

Or maybe more like: “You are allowed to claim the other 50% of the commentary in this country if and only if we choose not to contest the claim.”

I just noticed the other day that you get the very same thing over at Wikipedia when you read a Bacharim biography versus a Shkotzim biography – for instance, compare the Wikipedia propaganda on Tarski [greatest thing since sliced bread; second coming of the Messiah] -vs- Church [hayseed hick redneck inbred troglodyte].

Anonymous said…

The 20 percent Protestant representation is not surprising and fits into the general late Roman Empire vibe the country has today. There have never been fewer Protestants on the Supreme Court or in Congress than there are today. And look at the demographics of Obama’s cabinet to really see the power shift: half-foreign; immigrants; children or grandchildren of immigrants. Catholic and Jewish by and large with perhaps two or three Protestants. You know you’re in trouble when Hilary Clinton is the best example one has of the old Protestant America. Obama’s maternal roots are deeply American but we all know what he thinks of his white heritage…he hates it.

But does the passing away of Protestant America matter? We’ll see.

In response came this:

Anonymous said…

if you guys are done whispering about the unspeakably powerful jewish/catholic cabal, (you guys DO realize how laughable and pathetic you sound, right? ever’thang would be all better if only hymie wasn’t keepin’ you down??)(i’ll BETCHA the vatican invented the AIDS virus, too! it’s clearly all part of a sinister centuries-in-the-making rothschild/opus dei plot for world domination! my god! this thing is huge! HUGE, i tell you!) maybe someone can answer this for a pore dumb redneck. krugman is number 1?!?

Note the characteristically anti-anti-semitic self-misidentification as a “pore dumb redneck”.

Komment Kontrol let my response through:

I realize how nervous and uncomfortable you sound. Something similar can be heard every time jewish disproportions are criticized.

50% of the list is jewish. It’s probably 100% philo-semitic. And for some strange reason anyone who finds this troubling has to be reminded, constantly, that they will be mocked for it. You might as well drop the pretense and simply remind us that it will soon be literally unspeakable, or at least illegal. That’s how laughable and pathetic the subject is.

The demographic I’m most concerned with here hasn’t been mentioned yet. It’s an issue “the columnists and bloggers and broadcast pundits who shape the national debates” (in the Atlantic’s view) are especially adept at keeping from being debated.

Which of these people favor genocidal levels of immigration, whether shaped as “amnesty”, “comprehensive immigration reform”, or “open borders”

Dobbs, Hannity, and Limbaugh have taken more or less negative positions concerning illegal immigration, which could be seen as being at least half opposed. The rest I know something of are more or less in favor.

There is at least one person on the list with an explicitly dim view of Whites and Christians.

Harold Meyerson – Economy? What Economy?:

Republican conventions have long been bastions of de facto Caucasian exclusivity, but coming right after the diversity of Denver, this year’s GOP convention is almost shockingly — un-Americanly — white. Long term, this whiteness is a huge problem.

Harold Meyerson – Hard-liners for Jesus:

As Christians across the world prepare to celebrate the birth of Jesus, it’s a fitting moment to contemplate the mountain of moral, and mortal, hypocrisy that is our Christianized Republican Party.

. . .

We’ve seen this kind of Christianity before in America. It’s more tribal than religious, and it surges at those times when our country is growing more diverse and economic opportunity is not abounding. At its height in the 1920s, the Ku Klux Klan was chiefly the political expression of nativist Protestants upset by the growing ranks of Catholics in their midst.

Is there anyone on the Atlantic list who has written similarly negative things concerning jews? Something that approximates Meyerson’s statements? More tribal than religious indeed.

Lists reflecting jewish disproportions are not difficult to find. Jewish power dominates at ‘Vanity Fair’ | Jewish News | Jerusalem Post, from 2007, is a good example. A list of lists can be found at A Summing Up – Achievements of Jews.

The double standards are clear. Jewish disproportions are good. White disproportions are “hate”. Attacking Whites is good. Defending Whites is “hate”.